§ Mr. John Smith
As my right hon. Friend made clear at the time, it is not possible to estimate with any precision the energy saving flowing from the interim package which he announced on 9th December. My right hon. Friend is satisfied that these measures can make a valuable contribution, and he intends to extend and reinforce them in future.
§ Mr. Adley
Is not the Minister aware that the position of rural dwellers as first highlighted by my hon. Friend the Member for Bodmin (Mr. Hicks) must be compared with the comfortable conditions of city office workers and people with oil central heating who live in a comparatively warm temperature of 68 degrees which is considered by the Government to be adequate? Will not the hon. Gentleman realise that the country faces an economic crisis because of the oil situation and that unless the Department sets an example and takes firm action we shall not save as much oil as we otherwise would?
§ Mr. Lipton
Does my hon. Friend have any figures showing the extent to which the cause of oil conservation is being supported by the inhabitants of Christchurch and Lymington? Are they backing Britain in that part of the world?
§ Mr. Smith
That is perhaps a question for the hon. Member for Christchurch and Lymington (Mr. Adley) to 997 answer. There is a serious aspect to this matter. Everybody must co-operate in the energy-saving programme, and the Government are about to embark upon an extensive publicity campaign so that everybody at home and in an industrial capacity can get together to save the maximum amount of energy, which costs us so much at the moment.
§ Mr. Charles Morrison
While expensive publicity campaigns may be all very well, if the Government are really serious about the need to conserve energy should they not cut down the amount of lighting on motorways? It is ridiculous to have lighting the whole way from the outskirts of London to Maidenhead on the M4.
§ Mr. Smith
The hon. Gentleman referred to an expensive energy-saving campaign. We hope that the energy-saving campaign which we are about to promote will give value for money. If it can attract considerable savings and produce the right public spirit, it will he money well spent. The lighting of roadways involves my right hon. Friend the Minister for Transport, and there are different considerations here. We must balance road safety with energy saving.