§ 13. Mr. Luceasked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs whether he plans any discussions with the United States Government on the Middle East.
Mr. James CallaghanSuch discussions are continuing, and the most recent were in Helsinki last Thursday, 31st July.
§ Mr. LuceIn view of the key rôle which the United Nations plays in the Middle East, has the right hon. Gentle-man impressed upon Dr. Kissinger the need to urge both the Israelis and the Arabs to make substantial concessions in the next few weeks if a further war is to be averted? Does the right hon. Gentle man agree that it is Her Majesty's Government's policy to oppose anyone who urges that Israel should be expelled from the United Nations? Equally, does he agree that we should expect Israel to desist from her provocative policy of building settlements in occupied territory?
Mr. CallaghanAs regards forth-coming events, both President Ford and Dr. Kissinger are deeply concerned that there should be a speedy conclusion of the current round of talks, leading to an interim agreement in August. There is hardly any need for me to press that upon them. They are perhaps even more aware than I am of the consequences of the situation.
I have made it utterly clear—I repeat this—that I am not going to ask the 490 British Government's representative at the United Nations to support a motion to expel or to suspend Israel. If such a motion were carried, the consequences would have a serious effect on the United Nations. I have argued in much more unpopular cases than this that the universality of the United Nations is an important principle for us all to observe. I have no direct knowledge of the settlements to which the hon. Gentleman refers, but if he cares to table a Question about the matter, I shall answer it
§ Mr. HooleyIs my right hon. Friend aware that I am staggered to hear him say that he has no knowledge of the colonisation of Egyptian and Syrian territory by Israel? This has been going on for many years and has not been concealed by the Israelis. It is a major stumbling block to any prospects of a peaceful settlement. Will he interest himself further in this matter and draw the attention of the United States and Israeli Governments to this important issue?
Mr. CallaghanI note what my hon. Friend says, but I feel that there is probably another side to the case.