HC Deb 21 May 1973 vol 857 cc24-32
31. Mr. Michael McNair-Wilson

asked the Minister for the Civil Service what is the present number of persons employed in the Civil Service; and what is the percentage change compared with the position in June 1970.

Mr. Kenneth Baker

On 1st July 1970 the number was 701,790. By 1st April 1973 this had fallen to 700,152. I will, with permission, circulate the usual analysis in the OFFICIAL REPORT.

Mr. McNair-Wilson

Is my hon. Friend aware how much pleasure his answer has given to the Government side of the House, as it was one of our promises that we would reduce the size of the Civil Service? Will he remind the House how much the Civil Service grew during the period of the previous administration?

Mr. Baker

I thank my hon. Friend for his congratulations. As I have said, in our first two and three quarter years the size of the Civil Service has remained roughly the same. In the same period under the Labour Government it rose by 3 per cent.

Mr. Sheldon

Before the hon. Gentleman starts congratulating himself too loudly, will he bear in mind that the number of non-industrial civil servants, the figures for whom were always used

Civil Service Staff in Post
1st April 1973
Ministerial Responsibilities Central Administration Public Services Executive Functions Trading and Repayment Services General Support Services
Cabinet Office
Secretariat and central support staff 430
Central Statistical Office 183
613
Agriculture, Fisheries and Food
Agriculture, Fisheries and Food policy 1,668
Agricultural Development and Advisory Service 5,009
Other technical staff 119
Regional and divisional offices 4,892
Kew Gardens and Wakehurst Place 467
Fisheries, Pest Infestation, Food Science and Torry Research laboratories 1,016
Central Services 1,842 388
Intervention Board for Agricultural Produce 120 180
3,630 12,071
Chancellor of the Exchequer
Treasury 1,008 42
Customs and Excise:
Collection of indirect taxes and control of imports and exports 1,830 20,668
Import and export statistics 966
Inland Revenue:
Collection of direct taxes, etc. 2,524 60,183 89 1,837
Land and property valuation services 6,080
Department for National Savings:
Receipt and repayment of savings 269 12,991
Support of voluntary savings movement 496
Small Departments:
Exchequer Office, Scotland 15 10 31 10
Government Actuary 58
National Debt Office 13 24 21
Paymaster General's Office 64 576
Registry of Friendly Societies 16 66 14
Royal Mint 1,305
Treasury Solicitor 75 35 277
5,814 88,528 14,451 2,800

until the hon. Gentleman started muddying the waters, has increased regularly and dramatically over the past two and a half years?

Mr. Baker

I am not conscious of muddying any waters. My comparisons have been absolutely accurate. If the hon. Gentleman wants to talk only about non-industrial civil servants he should remember that under the Labour Government's first three years their number increased by 41,000, whereas under the Conservative Government's first three years they increased by 15,000.

Following is the information:

Ministerial Responsibilities Central Administration Public Services Executive Functions Trading and Repayment Services General Support Services
EDUCATION AND SCIENCE
Education and scientific policy and administration, including University Grants Committees and HM Inspectorate of Schools 2,148 814
National Lending Library 324
Victoria and Albert Museum 640
Science Museum 419
2,148 1,873 324
Employment
Employment and training services 1,681 18,369 77
Occupational safety and health 1,595
Industrial relations 767
Industrial Tribunals and Industrial Arbitration Board 282
Selective employment payments 392
Unemployment benefits and redundancy payments 11,230
Passport work 520
Office of Manpower Economics 19
1,700 32,635 597
Environment
Property Services Agency 2,161 1,303 7,129 36,285
Local Government and Environmental Services 2,824 6,744 5,429
Housing 152 520
Driver and Vehicle Licensing and Local Taxation Offices 2,926
Transport Industries 780 220
Research 2,855
Related Bodies 697
Ordnance Survey 218 3,919 519
6,135 16,258 16,003 36,285
FOREIGN AND COMMONWEALTH
Diplomatic Service (Home) 3,430 951 56 58
Diplomatic Service (Overseas) 12 2,905 304
Government Communications Headquarters 233 1,642
Passport Office 733
Overseas Development Administration:
Aid Administration 950
Overseas manpower division 407
Overseas technical assistance 919
4,625 6,824 1,093 58
HOME
Prisons (England and Wales) 500 19,455
Immigration 1,100 1,365
Police Services 290 3,080
Fire 90 355
Criminal 145
Probation and after-care 190 75
Community programmes and general 125
Scientific, research and statistics 260
Central services 815
Finance and Accounts 265 10
Carlisle State Management Scheme 692
3,780 24,340 692
Ministerial Responsibilities Central Administration Public Services Executive Functions Trading and Repayment Services General Support Services
LORD CHANCELLOR
Lord Chancellor's Department 247
Courts Service 8,503
Family Division 514
Land Registry 4,804
Public Trustee 532
Public Record Office 329
247 9,351 5,336
LORD PRIVY SEAL
Civil Service Department:
Management of the Civil Service 660 191
Civil Service Recruitment 432
Civil Service College 346
Central Services 634
Chessington Computer Centre 327
Central Computer Agency 100 17 405
Civil Service Catering Organisation 1,651
Central Office of Information 106 1,183
HM Stationery Office:
Procurement and distribution of paper, printing, etc 413 1,546 1,463
Production units: printing, binding and reprographic 1,432 2,475
1,913 4,646 6,822
NORTHERN IRELAND
Northern Ireland Office 118
POSTS AND TELECOMMUNICATIONS
Broadcasting and radio regulatory 192 40 100 28
Posts and Telecommunications 91
283 40 100 28
SCOTLAND
Scottish Office:
Department of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food 422 1,969
Scottish Development Department 776 116 66
Scottish Education Department 312 309
Scottish Home and Health Department 505 473 38
Central Services 2,145
Prisons 2,165
State Hospitals 302
Scottish Courts Administration 32 629
Small Scottish Departments:
General Register Office, Scotland 35 390
Lord Lyon and Warden of Regalia 5
Registers of Scotland 346
Royal Scottish Museum 164
Scottish Record Office 135
4,227 6,652 455
SOCIAL SERVICES
Health Services:
Special Hospitals 4,096 1,664
Artificial Limb and Appliance Centres 898
National Health Service Superannuation 383
War Pensions Hospital
Artificial Eye Unit 95
Common Cold Research Unit
Youth Treatment Centre
Blackpool Central Office 462
Ministerial Responsibilities Central Administration Public Services Executive Functions Trading and Repayment Services General Support Services
SOCIAL SERVICES—cont.
Social Security benefit services:
Regional Organisations 2,670 55,435
Newcastle Central Office 10,408
Blackpool Central Office 2,386
ADP Centre, Reading 190
Office of Population Censuses and Surveys 544 1,405 633
7,310 73,326 633
TRADE AND INDUSTRY
International trade 248 1,361
Industry and commerce 1,580 1,961 3,706
Industrial research 3,670
Civil aviation and marine 429 882 427
Central services (including Business Statistics Office) 3,450 997
Export Credits Guarantee Department 1,672
5,707 7,874 5,805 997
WALES
Welsh Office:
Primary and secondary education including HM Inspectors of Schools 26 50
Local government and development including housing 375
Health services 161
Artificial Limb and Appliance Centre 46
Central services 340
902 96
SMALL DEPARTMENTS
Charity Commission 43 276
Civil Service Pay Research Unit 37
Crown Estate Office 126
Crown Office 23
Director of Public Prosecutions 10 142
Law Officers' Department 20
Lord Advocate's Department 14
Parliamentary Counsel 48
Privy Council Office 34
Procurator Fiscal Service 302
Registrar of Restrictive Trading Agreement 61
Registry of Trade Unions and Employers' Associations 23 21
Supreme Court of Northern Ireland 94
167 896 126 85
TOTAL 49,319 280,764 49,628 47,708
GRAND TOTAL 427,419
Ministerial Responsibility Staff
DEFENCE
Ministry of Defence Headquarters:
(a) Main Headquarters 10,149
(b) Defence Procurement Executive Headquarters 6,637
Maintenance, repair, storage and supply organisations 105,102
Command and support services for armed forces including medical, education and training establishments 77,221
Defence Procurement organisation outside Headquarters, including Research and Development establishments and Royal Ordnance factories 70,249
Meteorological Office 3,375
272,733

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