§ 31. Mr. Michael McNair-Wilsonasked the Minister for the Civil Service what is the present number of persons employed in the Civil Service; and what is the percentage change compared with the position in June 1970.
§ Mr. Kenneth BakerOn 1st July 1970 the number was 701,790. By 1st April 1973 this had fallen to 700,152. I will, with permission, circulate the usual analysis in the OFFICIAL REPORT.
§ Mr. McNair-WilsonIs my hon. Friend aware how much pleasure his answer has given to the Government side of the House, as it was one of our promises that we would reduce the size of the Civil Service? Will he remind the House how much the Civil Service 25 grew during the period of the previous administration?
§ Mr. BakerI thank my hon. Friend for his congratulations. As I have said, in our first two and three quarter years the size of the Civil Service has remained roughly the same. In the same period under the Labour Government it rose by 3 per cent.
§ Mr. SheldonBefore the hon. Gentleman starts congratulating himself too loudly, will he bear in mind that the number of non-industrial civil servants, the figures for whom were always used
| Civil Service Staff in Post | |||||
| 1st April 1973 | |||||
| Ministerial Responsibilities | Central Administration | Public Services | Executive Functions Trading and Repayment Services | General Support Services | |
| Cabinet Office | |||||
| Secretariat and central support staff | … | 430 | — | — | — |
| Central Statistical Office | … | 183 | — | — | — |
| 613 | — | — | — | ||
| Agriculture, Fisheries and Food | |||||
| Agriculture, Fisheries and Food policy | … | 1,668 | — | — | — |
| Agricultural Development and Advisory Service | … | — | 5,009 | — | — |
| Other technical staff | … | — | 119 | — | — |
| Regional and divisional offices | … | — | 4,892 | — | — |
| Kew Gardens and Wakehurst Place | … | — | 467 | — | — |
| Fisheries, Pest Infestation, Food Science and Torry Research laboratories | … | — | 1,016 | — | — |
| Central Services | … | 1,842 | 388 | — | — |
| Intervention Board for Agricultural Produce | … | 120 | 180 | — | — |
| 3,630 | 12,071 | — | — | ||
| Chancellor of the Exchequer | |||||
| Treasury | … | 1,008 | — | — | 42 |
| Customs and Excise: | … | ||||
| Collection of indirect taxes and control of imports and exports | … | 1,830 | 20,668 | — | — |
| Import and export statistics | … | 966 | — | — | |
| Inland Revenue: | |||||
| Collection of direct taxes, etc. | … | 2,524 | 60,183 | 89 | 1,837 |
| Land and property valuation services | … | 6,080 | — | — | |
| Department for National Savings: | … | ||||
| Receipt and repayment of savings | … | 269 | — | 12,991 | — |
| Support of voluntary savings movement | … | 496 | — | — | |
| Small Departments: | |||||
| Exchequer Office, Scotland | … | 15 | 10 | 31 | 10 |
| Government Actuary | … | — | — | — | 58 |
| National Debt Office | … | 13 | 24 | 21 | — |
| Paymaster General's Office | … | 64 | — | — | 576 |
| Registry of Friendly Societies | … | 16 | 66 | 14 | — |
| Royal Mint | … | — | — | 1,305 | — |
| Treasury Solicitor | … | 75 | 35 | — | 277 |
| 5,814 | 88,528 | 14,451 | 2,800 |
§ until the hon. Gentleman started muddying the waters, has increased regularly and dramatically over the past two and a half years?
§ Mr. BakerI am not conscious of muddying any waters. My comparisons have been absolutely accurate. If the hon. Gentleman wants to talk only about non-industrial civil servants he should remember that under the Labour Government's first three years their number increased by 41,000, whereas under the Conservative Government's first three years they increased by 15,000.
§ Following is the information: 27
| Ministerial Responsibilities | Central Administration | Public Services | Executive Functions Trading and Repayment Services | General Support Services | |
| EDUCATION AND SCIENCE | |||||
| Education and scientific policy and administration, including University Grants Committees and HM Inspectorate of Schools | … | 2,148 | 814 | — | — |
| National Lending Library | … | — | — | 324 | — |
| Victoria and Albert Museum | … | — | 640 | — | — |
| Science Museum | … | — | 419 | — | — |
| 2,148 | 1,873 | 324 | — | ||
| Employment | |||||
| Employment and training services | … | 1,681 | 18,369 | 77 | — |
| Occupational safety and health | … | 1,595 | — | — | |
| Industrial relations | … | 767 | — | — | |
| Industrial Tribunals and Industrial Arbitration Board | … | 282 | — | — | |
| Selective employment payments | … | 392 | — | — | |
| Unemployment benefits and redundancy payments | … | 11,230 | — | — | |
| Passport work | … | — | 520 | — | |
| Office of Manpower Economics | … | 19 | — | — | — |
| 1,700 | 32,635 | 597 | — | ||
| Environment | |||||
| Property Services Agency | … | 2,161 | 1,303 | 7,129 | 36,285 |
| Local Government and Environmental Services | … | 2,824 | 6,744 | 5,429 | — |
| Housing | … | 152 | 520 | — | — |
| Driver and Vehicle Licensing and Local Taxation Offices | … | — | — | 2,926 | — |
| Transport Industries | … | 780 | 220 | — | — |
| Research | … | — | 2,855 | — | — |
| Related Bodies | … | — | 697 | — | — |
| Ordnance Survey | … | 218 | 3,919 | 519 | — |
| 6,135 | 16,258 | 16,003 | 36,285 | ||
| FOREIGN AND COMMONWEALTH | |||||
| Diplomatic Service (Home) | … | 3,430 | 951 | 56 | 58 |
| Diplomatic Service (Overseas) | … | 12 | 2,905 | 304 | — |
| Government Communications Headquarters | … | 233 | 1,642 | — | — |
| Passport Office | … | — | — | 733 | — |
| Overseas Development Administration: | |||||
| Aid Administration | … | 950 | — | — | — |
| Overseas manpower division | … | — | 407 | — | — |
| Overseas technical assistance | … | — | 919 | — | — |
| 4,625 | 6,824 | 1,093 | 58 | ||
| HOME | |||||
| Prisons (England and Wales) | … | 500 | 19,455 | — | — |
| Immigration | … | 1,100 | 1,365 | — | — |
| Police Services | … | 290 | 3,080 | — | — |
| Fire | … | 90 | 355 | — | — |
| Criminal | … | 145 | — | — | — |
| Probation and after-care | … | 190 | 75 | — | — |
| Community programmes and general | … | 125 | — | — | — |
| Scientific, research and statistics | … | 260 | — | — | — |
| Central services | … | 815 | — | — | — |
| Finance and Accounts | … | 265 | 10 | — | — |
| Carlisle State Management Scheme | … | — | — | 692 | — |
| 3,780 | 24,340 | 692 | — |
| Ministerial Responsibilities | Central Administration | Public Services | Executive Functions Trading and Repayment Services | General Support Services | |
| LORD CHANCELLOR | |||||
| Lord Chancellor's Department | … | 247 | — | — | — |
| Courts Service | … | — | 8,503 | — | — |
| Family Division | … | — | 514 | — | — |
| Land Registry | … | — | — | 4,804 | — |
| Public Trustee | … | — | — | 532 | — |
| Public Record Office | … | — | 329 | — | — |
| 247 | 9,351 | 5,336 | — | ||
| LORD PRIVY SEAL | |||||
| Civil Service Department: | … | ||||
| Management of the Civil Service | … | 660 | — | — | 191 |
| Civil Service Recruitment | … | — | — | — | 432 |
| Civil Service College | … | — | — | — | 346 |
| Central Services | … | 634 | — | — | — |
| Chessington Computer Centre | … | — | — | — | 327 |
| Central Computer Agency | … | 100 | — | 17 | 405 |
| Civil Service Catering Organisation | … | — | — | 1,651 | — |
| Central Office of Information | … | 106 | — | — | 1,183 |
| HM Stationery Office: | |||||
| Procurement and distribution of paper, printing, etc | … | 413 | — | 1,546 | 1,463 |
| Production units: printing, binding and reprographic | … | — | 1,432 | 2,475 | |
| 1,913 | — | 4,646 | 6,822 | ||
| NORTHERN IRELAND | |||||
| Northern Ireland Office | … | 118 | — | — | — |
| POSTS AND TELECOMMUNICATIONS | |||||
| Broadcasting and radio regulatory | … | 192 | 40 | 100 | 28 |
| Posts and Telecommunications | … | 91 | — | — | — |
| 283 | 40 | 100 | 28 | ||
| SCOTLAND | |||||
| Scottish Office: | |||||
| Department of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food | … | 422 | 1,969 | — | — |
| Scottish Development Department | … | 776 | 116 | 66 | — |
| Scottish Education Department | … | 312 | 309 | — | — |
| Scottish Home and Health Department | … | 505 | 473 | 38 | — |
| Central Services | … | 2,145 | — | — | — |
| Prisons | … | — | 2,165 | — | — |
| State Hospitals | … | — | 302 | — | — |
| Scottish Courts Administration | … | 32 | 629 | — | — |
| Small Scottish Departments: | |||||
| General Register Office, Scotland | … | 35 | 390 | — | — |
| Lord Lyon and Warden of Regalia | … | — | — | 5 | — |
| Registers of Scotland | … | — | — | 346 | — |
| Royal Scottish Museum | … | — | 164 | — | — |
| Scottish Record Office | … | — | 135 | — | — |
| 4,227 | 6,652 | 455 | — | ||
| SOCIAL SERVICES | |||||
| Health Services: | |||||
| Special Hospitals | … | 4,096 | 1,664 | — | — |
| Artificial Limb and Appliance Centres | … | 898 | — | — | |
| National Health Service Superannuation | … | 383 | — | — | |
| War Pensions Hospital | … | ||||
| Artificial Eye Unit | … | 95 | — | — | |
| Common Cold Research Unit | … | ||||
| Youth Treatment Centre | … | ||||
| Blackpool Central Office | … | 462 | — | — |
| Ministerial Responsibilities | Central Administration | Public Services | Executive Functions Trading and Repayment Services | General Support Services | |
| SOCIAL SERVICES—cont. | |||||
| Social Security benefit services: | |||||
| Regional Organisations | … | 2,670 | 55,435 | — | — |
| Newcastle Central Office | … | 10,408 | — | — | |
| Blackpool Central Office | … | 2,386 | — | — | |
| ADP Centre, Reading | … | 190 | — | — | |
| Office of Population Censuses and Surveys | … | 544 | 1,405 | — | 633 |
| 7,310 | 73,326 | — | 633 | ||
| TRADE AND INDUSTRY | |||||
| International trade | … | 248 | 1,361 | — | — |
| Industry and commerce | … | 1,580 | 1,961 | 3,706 | — |
| Industrial research | … | — | 3,670 | — | — |
| Civil aviation and marine | … | 429 | 882 | 427 | — |
| Central services (including Business Statistics Office) | … | 3,450 | — | — | 997 |
| Export Credits Guarantee Department | … | — | — | 1,672 | — |
| 5,707 | 7,874 | 5,805 | 997 | ||
| WALES | |||||
| Welsh Office: | |||||
| Primary and secondary education including HM Inspectors of Schools | … | 26 | 50 | — | — |
| Local government and development including housing | … | 375 | — | — | — |
| Health services | … | 161 | — | — | — |
| Artificial Limb and Appliance Centre | … | — | 46 | — | — |
| Central services | … | 340 | — | — | — |
| 902 | 96 | — | — | ||
| SMALL DEPARTMENTS | |||||
| Charity Commission | … | 43 | 276 | — | — |
| Civil Service Pay Research Unit | … | — | — | — | 37 |
| Crown Estate Office | … | — | — | 126 | — |
| Crown Office | … | 23 | — | — | — |
| Director of Public Prosecutions | … | 10 | 142 | — | — |
| Law Officers' Department | … | 20 | — | — | — |
| Lord Advocate's Department | … | 14 | — | — | — |
| Parliamentary Counsel | … | — | — | — | 48 |
| Privy Council Office | … | 34 | — | — | — |
| Procurator Fiscal Service | … | — | 302 | — | — |
| Registrar of Restrictive Trading Agreement | … | — | 61 | — | — |
| Registry of Trade Unions and Employers' Associations | … | 23 | 21 | — | — |
| Supreme Court of Northern Ireland | … | — | 94 | — | — |
| 167 | 896 | 126 | 85 | ||
| TOTAL | … | 49,319 | 280,764 | 49,628 | 47,708 |
| GRAND TOTAL | … | 427,419 |
| Ministerial Responsibility | Staff | |
| DEFENCE | ||
| Ministry of Defence Headquarters: | ||
| (a) Main Headquarters | … | 10,149 |
| (b) Defence Procurement Executive Headquarters | … | 6,637 |
| Maintenance, repair, storage and supply organisations | … | 105,102 |
| Command and support services for armed forces including medical, education and training establishments | … | 77,221 |
| Defence Procurement organisation outside Headquarters, including Research and Development establishments and Royal Ordnance factories | … | 70,249 |
| Meteorological Office | … | 3,375 |
| 272,733 |