Mr. Page—unemployment that they should try to get rid of, are encouraging members of trade unions to act, as they are in the coal mining industry, in such a way that they are likely to jeopardise their jobs. The number of men engaged as coal miners is bound to be less six months after the dispute ends than it was before. The speeches of Labour Members merely fan the flames of industrial disputes. That is a disservice to the industrial life of this country and to their constituents.
§ 11.2 p.m.
§ Mr. Charles Loughlin (Gloucestershire, West)Without being too personal to the hon. Member for Harrow, West (Mr. John Page), I must say that his speech was so pathetic that I should not be expected to make an apology for not following what he said. When an hon. Member on the Government side charges 188 the Opposition with the task of solving the problem of the million unemployed that the Government have produced, the situation is very grim.
The hon. Gentleman also said that we were gloating over the public's being inconvenienced by the miners having to go on strike. Those are not his exact words, but that is what he meant. The hon. Gentleman should not direct those remarks to us, because the Government could end the strike simply by forgoing their wages policy, related solely to the public sector, and telling the National Coal Board, "We shall not interfere should you desire to increase the offer to the National Union of Mineworkers." If they did, the Board would immediately settle with the mineworkers. The only reason why there is no settlement is not that we are gloating but that the Government have given clear and specific instructions to the Board that under no circumstances can it go over and above the wages offer it has made in accordance with the Government's wages policy—a policy which they say they do not have.
§ Mr. John PageDoes the hon. Gentleman think that it would be in the interests of the miners for their wages to be increased to such an extent that coal, as a source of power, became priced out of the market?
§ Mr. LoughlinSome 70,000 mineworkers receive gross wages, before deductions are made, of less than £19 a week; half of the 280,000 mineworkers receive less than £24 a week.
§ Mr. Kenneth Lewis (Rutland and Stamford)What has this to do with the order?
§ Mr. LoughlinIt has a lot to do with the point raised by the hon. Member for Harrow, West. I am not interested in whether the issue at the moment is whether the miners will price themselves out of the market, because I know that the Government have refused to allow the Coal Board to increase the price of coal to keep the miners in the market.
Mr. Deputy SpeakerOrder. Passing references to such matters are permitted, but the hon. Gentleman is going on with the matter a little too long. Will he return to the order?
§ Mr. LoughlinOne of my faults is that I usually go on a little long. What I want to say about the order is this. I think that it is an abuse of the procedures of the House for the Government to seek to bring in a single order of this kind to deal so comprehensively with the Act. It deals with 59 Sections of the Act; it deals virtually with every issue which concretely can arise—and I use the word "concretely" deliberately—from the Act. The negative procedure is here being used so that the Government may push through powers granted to the Minister at the time the House passed the Industrial Relations Bill. I have been trying to think of an occasion on which such a procedure has been used in this way before. I charge the Government with deliberately steamrolling matters through the House in this way. Instead of doing this by one order, they should have done it by 20 to 25 Statutory Instruments.
This order came into operation on 1st December, 1971, and I was somewhat amused in this connection by the remarks of the hon. Member for Basingstoke (Mr. David Mitchell). He referred to the speech of my hon. Friend the Member for Liverpool, Walton (Mr. Heffer) and my hon. Friend's reference to 13 million lost days as though this were all in the distant past. He suggested that if we had had this legislation, we should not have lost 13 million working days.
I remind the House that the Act came into operation on 1st December, 1971, and that we have since had a miners' strike. About 280,000 miners have been on strike for 16 working days and so, although the Act has been in operation only about one month, about three million working days have been lost.
We are asked as our last chance to approve provisions purporting to enable the country to get away from industrial disputes, from the "enormous number" of strikes which occurred before 1st January. What is the point of the legislation when on the first major test the Secretary of State does not use any of the powers available to him although there is a major strike? He has not used his power to ask the industrial court to order an end to the dispute; nor has he taken any other action, for he knows that to do so would be a sheer waste of time.
190 He should accept the Motion. Not to do so is not only to waste our time, which is valuable, but to waste his.
§ Mr. David MitchellThe hon. Member referred to the miners' strike. The Act bolsters the free collective bargaining system. It is an essential part of that free collective bargaining system that from time to time there will be disputes about what the bargain is to be. What the Act will help to ensure is that once the bargain is made, it is kept, and kept on both sides. That will be a major step forward.
§ Mr. LoughlinThe Act says that the Secretary of State shall have power to intervene in any dispute from which there is an economic danger to the country. The Secretary of State has not sought to invoke that power. This is a sheer waste of time.
§ 11.15 p.m.
§ Mr. Robert Redmond (Bolton, West)I should like the Under-Secretary to tell us something about the industrial relations courts which I understand have been working for some time. During the passage of the Bill it was said that they would be less formal, judicially, than, say, the Queen's Bench Division or the criminal courts. How have they been working? How are the trade union members who appear before them finding that they are being treated? I should have liked to make a longer speech but in view of the time I will confine my remarks to these matters.
§ 11.17 p.m.
§ Mr. Alex Eadie (Midlothian)As the miners' strike has entered into the debate it is appropriate that a miner should make some comments. We have shown that the Act is already in disrepute. I asked the hon. Member for Basingstoke (Mr. David Mitchell) whether he would invoke the Act in the miners' dispute but he either did not hear me or did not want to commit himself.
We have had this talk about arbitration, but the miners have had their arbitration. To apply the arbitration procedures of the Act would only aggravate the dispute. The miners had their arbitration 11 years ago. Last night on the "Frost Programme" I heard a Tory M.P. say, inaccurately, that the miners had gone to arbitration recently. They have not been to arbitration since 1946. In 191 1961 we said that we would not have any more because the last award was 5s. a week. The Government cannot say that arbitration would be fair and neutral because the miners know that it would not be. The last time they were deceived over surface workers' hours. The surface man works an eight-hour day and the arbitration gave him 12 minutes. The Government cannot point an accusing finger at the miners about democratic procedure. The miners' strike has shown how ineffective the Act is.
§ 11.18 p.m.
§ The Under-Secretary of State for Employment (Mr. Dudley Smith)While I cannot agree with the hon. Member for Midlothian (Mr. Eadie) I am grateful to him for keeping his remarks reasonably brief. We have all spent many hours discussing this Act. The fundamental question we have to ask in considering the various commencement orders of the Act which are to come before us—and there are 59 Sections tonight—is whether they will help to improve industrial relations The Opposition have consistently maintained that they will not, but it has always been the Government's case that the Act in the long term will alter the climate effectively and be of real benefit to both sides of industry if they approach the problems ahead of them and use the provisions of the Act in a realistic and sensible way.
There has been a good deal of noise and much comment about the way in which the Act is allegedly undermining the voluntary system. But people on both sides of industry have agreed that that system was not above inspection and improvement. The Government's position is that there are a number of important defects in the industrial relations system and though, admittedly, they affect a minority of those engaged in industry, the public interest decrees that something should be done about it, and something has been done about it.
The Act provides a range of devices when intractable problems arise so that they can be dealt with by identifiable solutions. The part of the Act which we are discussing provides some of these solutions, particularly concerning recognition problems and defective procedures. It is true that the Government expect resort to these procedures to be used 192 fairly sparingly, but the fact that they exist means that those concerned are aware of their availability and that their long-term attitudes can be adjusted accordingly.
It is already being alleged, fairly—because we know the attitude which the Opposition have always adopted—that the Act will not be a success. I reject that view. It is far too early to judge how successful it will be. If the Act were not a fact of life, I am sure that the T.U.C. would not have published what I consider to be, in some respects, the very constructive guidelines and advice to its members contained in its handbook on the Act. It is true that it gives guidance to its members on how to get round the Act and says that the Act is not a good one, but, beneath it all, many of its comments can contribute to helping to create good industrial relations. Would the T.U.C. have done this without the Act? Of course it would not.
I do not want to weary the House with too many quotations from the handbook, but I must make one or two. Paragraph 23 states:
Trade unions should continue to follow traditional methods of obtaining recognition"—and so say all of us. Paragraph 24 states:The conciliation services of the Department of Employment are available to all unions, whether registered or not, for resolving disputes with employers about recognitionThe facilities of the Department are available for that purpose; the T.U.C. is absolutely right about that. Provision for concilation is built into the Act and it is provided for in many of the provisions of commencement order No. 3. In addition, extra conciliation officers will be appointed as a result of the operation of the Act.
§ Mr. Harry Ewing (Stirling and Falkirk Burghs)Does the hon. Gentleman accept that it must be a disgraceful Act if he has to call in aid a document which explains how to get round it?
§ Mr. SmithOn the contrary. In a non-political sense, I am a very liberal politician. We should examine below the surface what impact legislation has on individuals and groups outside the hothouse of the House of Commons. The T.U.C. is already assisting in underpinning the voluntary system of industrial relations by its comments, and by 193 the publication of this document. Paragraph 26 says:
Unions involved in difficulties with other unions should continue, therefore, the attempt to resolve their problems through any established bilateral machinery or, failing that, through the T.U.C. disputes machinery, and so obviate the possibility of intervention by the N.I.R.C. and the C.I.R.If that comes about, no one will be more pleased than I that industrial relations should be so reformed that the N.I.R.C. and the C.I.R. are not needed. The approach of the T.U.C. is important.The approach of management is also important. In seminars throughout the country management and those who are concerned with the organisation of personnel functions are making themselves expert in the provisions of the Act by debating them in teach-ins. As time goes on we shall see an increasingly sophisticated approach.
The hon. Member for Liverpool, Walton (Mr. Heffer) spoke of the emergency procedures and the miners' strike. While the emergency procedure may not have been used in this dispute, it remains an important part of the Act and it certainly is not totally irrelevant. It is procedure to be used sparingly, in the last resort, and we have repeatedly emphasised that these powers would not be lightly used. In years to come there may be occasions on which the procedure can be used, and used to advantage. The powers do not allow the Government to stop strikes—
§ Mr. HefferWill the hon. Gentleman describe in which circumstances those provisions would be used? Would they be used only when there are unofficial strikes involving unofficial strike leaders?
§ Mr. Dudley SmithNo. The procedure imposes a period of deferment on the organisation of industrial action. For the procedure to be useful the time has
§ to be right to put in an application to the industrial court. The crucial test is, would it be conducive to a settlement? This is always the test which my right hon. Friend applies and which I am sure successive Secretaries of State will apply. I do not wish to get involved in the rights and wrongs of the miners' strike, but my right hon. Friend has applied that test and in these circumstances, the procedure would not be conducive to a settlement.
§ My hon. Friend the Member for Bolton, West (Mr. Redmond) asked whether the industrial relations court had yet had any cases. As time is short, I will write to him giving him the particulars. There have been eight notifications, seven on recognition and one on procedure agreements. The court is getting down to work and has to notify the Secretary of State of conciliation processes.
§ Other points were raised by hon. Members, but I have little time to deal with them. I was sorry that the hon Member for Putney (Mr. Hugh Jenkins) took the view he expressed after all the efforts we made to meet him on the question of the approved closed shop. He says that Equity is opting out. I believe that Equity is not to be registered and is not even giving it a try. This shows the paucity of the case.
§ Debating the Industrial Relations Act is rather like watching an old film on television for the third or fourth time. It does nothing whatever to improve the showing that we have seen in the past and nothing to further the reality of industrial relations. We have to realise that the Act is a reality and that it is working.
§ Question put:—
§ The House divided: Ayes 260, Noes 291.
199Division No. 49.] | AYES | [11.29 p.m. |
Abse, Leo | Benn, Rt. Hn. Anthony Wedgwood | Brown, Ronald (Shoreditch & F'bury) |
Albu, Austen | Bennett, James (Glasgow, Bridgeton) | Buchan, Norman |
Allaun, Frank (Salford, E.) | Bidwell, Sydney | Buchanan, Richard (G'gow, Sp'burn) |
Archer, Peter (Rowley Regis) | Bishop, E. S. | Butler, Mrs. Joyce (Wood Green) |
Armstrong, Ernest | Blenkinsop, Arthur | Campbell, I. (Dunbartonshire, W.) |
Ashley, Jack | Boardman, H. (Leigh) | Cant, R. B. |
Ashton, Joe | Booth, Albert | Carmichael, Neil |
Atkinson, Norman | Bottomley, Rt. Hn. Arthur | Carter, Ray (Birmingha'm, Northfield) |
Bagier, Gordon A. T. | Boyden, James (Bishop Auckland) | Castle, Rt. Hn. Barbara |
Barnes, Michael | Bradley, Tom | Clark, David (Colne Valley) |
Barnett, Guy (Greenwich) | Broughton, Sir Alfred | Cocks, Michael (Bristol, S.) |
Barnett, Joel (Heywood and Royton) | Brown, Bob (N'c'tle-upon-Tyne, W.) | Cohen, Stanley |
Baxter, William | Brown, Hugh D. (G'gow, Provan) | Coleman, Donald |
Conlan, Bernard | Jenkins, Hugh (Putney) | Peart, Rt. Hn. Fred |
Corbet, Mrs. Freda | John, Brynmor | Pendry, Tom |
Cox, Thomas (Wandsworth, C.) | Johnson, Carol (Lewisham, S.) | Perry, Ernest G. |
Crawshaw, Richard | Johnson, James (K'ston-on-Hull, W.) | Prentice, Rt. Hn. Reg. |
Cronin, John | Johnson, Walter (Derby, S.) | Prescott, John |
Cunningham, G. (Islington, S.W.) | Johnston, Russell (Inverness) | Price, J. T. (Westhoughton) |
Cunningham, Dr. J. A. (Whitehaven) | Jones, Barry (Flint, E.) | Price, William (Rugby) |
Dalyell, Tam | Jones, Dan (Burnley) | Probert, Arthur |
Darling, Rt. Hn. George | Jones, Rt. Hn. Sir Elwyn (W. Ham, S.) | Reed, D. (Sedgefield) |
Davidson, Arthur | Jones, Gwynoro (Carmarthen) | Rees, Merlyn (Leeds, S.) |
Davies, Denzil (Llanelly) | Jones, T. Alec (Rhondda, W.) | Rhodes, Geoffrey |
Davies, Ifor (Gower) | Judd, Frank | Richard, Ivor |
Davis, Clinton (Hackney, C.) | Kaufman, Gerald | Roberts, Albert (Normanton) |
Davis, Terry (Bromsgrove) | Kinnock, Neil | Roberts, Rt. Hn. Goronwy (Caernarvon) |
Deakins, Eric | Lambie, David | Robertson, John (Paisley) |
de Freitas, Rt. Hn. Sir Geoffrey | Latham, Arthur | Roderick, Caerwyn E. (Br'c'n&R'dnor) |
Delargy, H. J. | Lawson, George | Rodgers, William (Stockton-on-Tees) |
Dell, Rt. Hn. Edmund | Leadbitter, Ted | Roper, John |
Dempsey, James | Leonard, Dick | Rose, Paul B. |
Doig, Peter | Lestor, Miss Joan | Ross, Rt. Hn. William (Kilmarnock) |
Dormand, J. D. | Lever, Rt. Hn. Harold | Sandelson, Neville |
Douglas, Dick (Stirlingshire, E.) | Lewis, Arthur (W. Ham, N.) | Sheldon, Robert (Ashton-under-Lyne) |
Douglas-Mann, Bruce | Lewis, Ron (Carlisle) | Shore, Rt. Hn. Peter (Stepney) |
Driberg, Tom | Lipton, Marcus | Short, Rt. Hn. Edward (N'c'tle-u-Tyne) |
Duffy, A. E. P. | Lomas, Kenneth | Short, Mrs. Renée (W'hampton, N.E.) |
Dunn, James A. | Loughlin, Charles | Silkin, Rt. Hn. John (Deptford) |
Dunnett, Jack | Lyons, Edward (Bradford, E.) | Silkin, Hn. S. C. (Dulwich) |
Eadie, Alex | Mabon, Dr. J. Dickson | Sillars, James |
Edelman, Maurice | McBride, Neil | Silverman, Julius |
Edwards, Robert (Bilston) | McCann, John | Skinner, Dennis |
Edwards, William (Merioneth) | McCartney, Hugh | Small, William |
Ellis, Tom | McElhone, Frank | Smith, John (Lanarkshire, N.) |
English, Michael | McGuire, Michael | Spearing, Nigel |
Evans, Fred | Mackenzie, Gregor | Spriggs, Leslie |
Ewing, Henry | Mackie, John | Stallard, A. W. |
Fernyhough, Rt. Hn. E. | Mackintosh, John P. | Steel, David |
Fisher, Mrs. Doris (B'ham, Ladywood) | Maclennan, Robert | Stewart, Rt. Hn. Michael (Fulham) |
Fitch, Alan (Wigan) | McMillan, Tom (Glasgow, C.) | Stoddart, David (Swindon) |
Fletcher, Raymond (Ilkeston) | Mahon, Simon (Bootle) | Stonehouse, Rt. Hn. John |
Fletcher, Ted (Darlington) | Mallalieu, J. P. W. (Huddersfield, E.) | Strang, Gavin |
Foot, Michael | Marks, Kenneth | Strauss, Rt. Hn. G. R. |
Ford, Ben | Marquand, David | Summerskill, Hn. Dr. Shirley |
Forrester, John | Marshall, Dr. Edmund | Swain, Thomas |
Fraser, John (Norwood) | Mason, Rt. Hn. Roy | Taverne, Dick |
Galpern, Sir Myer | Meacher, Michael | Thomas, Rt. Hn. George (Cardiff, W.) |
Garrett, W. E. | Mellish, Rt. Hn. Robert | Thomas, Jeffrey (Abertillery) |
Gilbert, Dr. John | Mendelson, John | Thomson, Rt. Hn. G. (Dundee, E.) |
Ginsburg, David (Dewsbury) | Mikardo, Ian | Thorpe, Rt. Hn. Jeremy |
Golding, John | Millan, Bruce | Tinn, James |
Gordon Walker, Rt. Hn. P. C. | Miller, Dr. M. S. | Tomney, Frank |
Gourlay, Harry | Milne, Edward | Torney, Tom |
Grant, George (Morpeth) | Mitchell, R. C. (S'hampton, Itchen) | Tuck, Raphael |
Grant, John D. (Islington, E.) | Molloy, William | Urwin, T. W. |
Griffiths, Eddie (Brightside) | Morgan, Elystan (Cardiganshire) | Varley, Eric G. |
Griffiths, Will (Exchange) | Morris, Alfred (Wythenshawe) | Wainwright, Edwin |
Hamilton, James (Bothwell) | Morris, Rt. Hn. John (Aberavon) | Walden, Brian (B'm'ham, All Saints) |
Hamilton, William (Fife, W.) | Moyle, Roland | Walker, Harold (Doncaster) |
Hannan, William (G'gow, Maryhill) | Mulley, Rt. Hn. Frederick | Wallace, George |
Hardy, Peter | Murray, Ronald King | Watkins, David |
Harper, Joseph | Oakes, Gordon | Weitzman, David |
Hart, Rt. Hn. Judith | Ogden, Eric | Wells, William (Walsall, N.) |
Healey, Rt. Hn. Denis | O'Halloran, Michael | White, James (Glasgow, Pollok) |
Heffer, Eric S. | Oram, Bert | Whitehead, Phillip |
Horam, John | Orbach, Maurice | Whitlock, William |
Houghton, Rt. Hn. Douglas | Orme, Stanley | Willey, Rt. Hn. Frederick |
Howell, Denis (Small Heath) | Oswald, Thomas | Williams, Alan (Swansea, W.) |
Huckfield, Leslie | Owen, Dr. David (Plymouth, Sutton) | Williams, Mrs. Shirley (Hitchin) |
Hughes, Rt. Hn. Cledwyn (Anglesey) | Padley, Walter | Williams, W. T. (Warrington) |
Hughes, Mark (Durham) | Paget, R. T. | Wilson, Alexander (Hamilton) |
Hughes, Robert (Aberdeen, N.) | Palmer, Arthur | Wilson, William (Coventry, S.) |
Hunter, Adam | Pannell, Rt. Hn. Charles | Woof, Robert |
Irvine, Rt. Hn. Sir Arthur(Edge Hill) | Pardoe, John | |
Janner, Greville | Parker, John (Dagenham) | TELLERS FOR THE AYES: |
Jay, Rt. Hn. Douglas | Parry, Robert (Liverpool, Exchange) | Mr. J. D. Concannon and |
Jeger, Mrs. Lena | Pavitt, Laurie | Mr. William Hamling. |
NOES | ||
Adley, Robert | Archer, Jeffrey (Louth) | Baker, Kenneth (St. Marylebone) |
Alison, Michael (Barkston Ash) | Astor, John | Barber, Rt. Hn. Anthony |
Allason, James (Hemel Hempstead) | Atkins, Humphrey | Batsford, Brian |
Amery, Rt. Hn. Julian | Awdry, Daniel | Beamish, Col. Sir Tufton |
Bell, Ronald | Gray, Hamish | Meyer, Sir Anthony |
Bennett, Dr. Reginald (Gosport) | Green, Alan | Mills, Peter (Torrington) |
Benyon, W. | Grieve, Percy | Mills, Stratton (Belfast, N.) |
Berry, Hn. Anthony | Griffiths, Eldon (Bury St. Edmunds) | Miscampbell, Norman |
Biffen, John | Gryils, Michael | Mitchell, Lt. -Col. C.(Aberdeenshire, W) |
Biggs-Davison, John | Gummer, Selwyn | Mitchell, David (Basingstoke) |
Blaker, Peter | Gurden, Harold | Moate, Roger |
Boardman, Tom (Leicester, S.W.) | Hall, Miss Joan (Keighley) | Molyneaux, James |
Body, Richard | Hall, John (Wycombe) | Money, Ernie |
Boscawen, Robert | Hall-Davis, A. G. F. | Monks, Mrs. Connie |
Bossom, Sir Clive | Hamilton, Michael (Salisbury) | Monro, Hector |
Bowden, Andrew | Hannam, John (Exeter) | Montgomery, Fergus |
Boyd-Carpenter, Rt. Hn. John | Harrison, Brian (Maldon) | More, Jasper |
Braine, Bernard | Harrison, Col. Sir Harwood (Eye) | Morgan-Giles, Rear-Adm. |
Bray, Ronald | Haselhurst, Alan | Morrison, Charles |
Brewis, John | Hastings, Stephen | Mudd, David |
Brinton, Sir Tatton | Havers, Michael | Murton, Oscar |
Brocklebank-Fowler, Christopher | Hawkins, Paul | Nabarro, Sir Gerald |
Brown, Sir Edward (Bath) | Hay, John | Neave, Airey |
Bruce-Gardyne, J. | Hayhoe, Barney | Nicholls, Sir Harmar |
Bryan, Paul | Heseltine, Michael | Noble, Rt. Hn. Michael |
Buchanan-Smith, Alick (Angus, N&M] | Hicks, Robert | Nott, John |
Buck, Antony | Higgins Terence L. | Onslow, Cranley |
Burden, F. A. | Hiley, Joseph | Oppenheim, Mrs. Sally |
Butler, Adam (Bosworth) | Hill, John E. B. (Norfolk, S.) | Orr, Capt. L. P. S. |
Carr, Rt. Hn. Robert | Hill, James (Southampton, Test) | Osborn, John |
Channon, Paul | Holland, Philip | Owen, Idris (Stockport, N.) |
Chapman, Sydney | Holt, Miss Mary | Page, Graham (Crosby) |
Chataway, Rt. Hn. Christopher | Hornby, Richard | Page, John (Harrow, W.) |
Chichester-Clark, R. | Hornsby-Smith, Rt. Hn. Dame Patricia | Parkinson, Cecil |
Churchill, W. S. | Howe, Hn. Sir Geoffrey (Reigate) | Peel, John |
Clarke, Kenneth (Rushcliffe) | Howell, David (Guildford) | Percival, Ian |
Clegg, Walter | Howell, Ralph (Norfolk, N.) | Peyton, Rt. Hn. John |
Cockeram, Eric | Hunt, John | Pike, Miss Mervyn |
Cooke, Robert | Hutchison, Michael Clark | Pink, R. Bonner |
Coombs, Derek | Iremonger, T. L. | Pounder, Rafton |
Cooper, A. E. | Irvine, Bryant Godman (Rye) | Price, David (Eastleigh) |
Cordls, John | James, David | Proudfoot, Wilfred |
Corfield, Rt. Hn. Frederick | Jenkin, Patrick (Woodford) | Pym, Rt. Hn. Francis |
Cormack, Patrick | Jennings, J. C. (Burton) | Quennell, Miss J. M. |
Costain, A. P. | Jessel, Toby | Raison, Timothy |
Critchley, Julian | Johnson Smith, G. (E. Grinstead) | Ramsden, Rt. Hn. James |
Crouch, David | Jopling, Michael | Redmond, Robert |
Crowder, F. P. | Joseph, Rt. Hn. Sir Keith | Reed, Laurance (Bolton, E.) |
Curran, Charles | Kaberry, Sir Donald | Rees, Peter (Dover) |
Davies, Rt. Hn. John (Knutsford) | Kellett-Bowman, Mrs. Elaine | Rees-Davies, W. R. |
d'Avigdor-Goldsmid, Maj. -Gen. James | Kershaw, Anthony | Renton, Rt. Hn. Sir David |
Dean, Paul | Kilfedder, James | Rhys Williams, Sir Brandon |
Deedes, Rt. Hn. W. F. | Kimball, Marcus | Ridley, Hn. Nicholas |
Digby, Simon Wingfield | King, Evelyn (Dorset, S.) | Ridsdale, Julian |
Dixon, Piers | King, Tom (Bridgwater) | Roberts, Michael (Cardiff, N.) |
Dodds-Parker, Douglas | Kinsey, J. R. | Roberts, Wyn (Conway) |
Drayson, G. B. | Kirk, Peter | Rodgers, Sir John (Sevenoaks) |
Dykes, Hugh | Kitson, Timothy | Rossi, Hugh (Hornsey) |
Eden, Sir John | Knight, Mrs. Jill | Rost, Peter |
Edwards, Nicholas (Pembroke) | Knox, David | Russell, Sir Ronald |
Elliot, Capt. Walter (Carshalton) | Lambton, Antony | St. John-Stevas, Norman |
Emery, Peter | Lane, David | Sandys, Rt. Hn. D. |
Farr, John | Langford-Holt, Sir John | Sharples, Richard |
Fell, Anthony | Legge-Bourke, Sir Harry | Sheldon, Robert (Ashton-under-Lyne) |
Fenner, Mrs. Peggy | Le Marchant, Spencer | Simeons, Charles |
Fidler, Michael | Lewis, Kenneth (Rutland) | Sinclair, Sir George |
Finsberg, Geoffrey (Hampstead) | Longden, Gilbert | Skeet, T. H. H. |
Fletcher-Cooke, Charles | Loveridge, John | Smith, Dudley (W'wick & L'mington) |
Fookes, Miss Janet | Luce, R. N. | Soref, Harold |
Fortescue, Tim | McAdden, Sir Stephen | Speed, Keith |
Foster, Sir John | MacArthur, Ian | Spence, John |
Fowler, Norman | McCrindle, R. A. | Spence, John |
Fox, Marcus | McLaren, Martin | Sproat, Iain |
Fraser, Rt. Hn. Hugh (St'fford & Stone) | Maclean, Sir Fitzroy | Stainton, Keith |
Fry, Peter | McMaster, Stanley | Stanbrook, Ivor |
Galbraith, Hn. T. G. | Macmillan, Maurice (Farnham) | Stewart-Smith, Geoffrey (Belper) |
Gardner, Edward | McNair-Wilson, Michael | Stodart, Anthony (Edinburgh, W.) |
Gibson-Watt, David | McNair-Wilson, Patrick (New Forest) | Stoddart-Scott, Col. Sir M. |
Gilmour, Ian (Norfolk, C.) | Maddan, Martin | Stokes, John |
Gilmour, Sir John (Fife, E.) | Madel, David | Stuttaford, Dr. Tom |
Glyn, Dr. Alan | Maginnis, John E. | Sutcliffe, John |
Godber, Rt. Hn. J. B. | Marples, Rt. Hn. Ernest | Tapsell, Peter |
Goodhart, Philip | Marten, Neil | Taylor, Sir Charles (Eastbourne) |
Goodhew, Victor | Mather, Carol | Taylor, Edward M. (G'gow, Cathcart) |
Gorst, John | Maude, Angus | Taylor, Frank (Moss Side) |
Gower, Raymond | Mawby, Ray | Taylor, Robert (Croydon, N.W.) |
Grant, Anthony (Harrow, C.) | Maxwell-Hyslop, R. J. | Tebbit, Norman |
Thatcher, Rt. Hn. Mrs. Margaret | Waddington, David | Wilkinson, John |
Thomas, John Stradling (Monmouth) | Walder, David (Clitheroe) | Winterton, Nicholas |
Thomas, Rt. Hn. Peter (Hendon, S.) | Walker, Rt. Hn. Peter (Worcester) | Woodhouse, Hn. Christopher |
Thompson, Sir Richard (Croydon, S.) | Walker-Smith, Rt. Hn. Sir Derek | Woodnutt, Mark |
Tilney, John | Wall, Patrick | Worsley, Marcus |
Trafford, Dr. Anthony | Walters, Dennis | Wylie, Rt. Hn. N. R. |
Trew, Peter | Ward, Dame Irene | Younger, Hn. George |
Tugendhat, Christopher | Warren, Kenneth | |
Turton, Rt. Hn. Sir Robin | Wells, John (Maidstone) | TELLERS FOR THE NOES: |
van Straubenzee, W. R. | White, Roger (Gravesend) | Mr. Reginald Eyre and |
Vaughan, Dr. Gerard | Whitelaw, Rt. Hn. William | Mr. Bernard Weatherill. |
Vickers, Dame Joan | Wiggin, Jerry |
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- SUPPLY 3 words cc58-176
- UNEMPLOYMENT 44,280 words, 2 divisions c177
- BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE 24 words cc177-87
- INDUSTRIAL RELATIONS 3,889 words