§
Amendments made: No. 68, in page 115, line 22, leave out
'child undergoing training by any person'
and insert 'person undergoing training'.
§ No. 69, in line 24, leave out 'the child' and insert 'he'.
§ No. 70, in line 28, leave out' "husband' ".
§
No. 71, in line 30, leave out
'and subject to paragraphs 4 and 5 below'.
§ No. 72, in line 35, leave out sub-paragraph (2).
§
No. 73, in page 116, line 14, leave out from 'tenant' to end of line 20 and insert
'and the authority have grounds for considering that in the special circumstances of the case it would be reasonable to make their calculations under this Schedule by reference to the income of that other person and not of the tenant, they may treat that other person as the tenant, and make such payments of rebate or allowance (if any) as ought to be made on that basis.
(2) Where an authority exercise the power conferred on them by sub-paragraph (1) above, the tenant shall be treated as a non-dependant for the purposes of this Schedule, but neither the spouse nor a dependent child of the person who is treated as the tenant shall be treated as a non-dependant for those purposes.
5A. In the following provisions of this Schedule 'tenant' includes a person treated as
| Division No. 146.] | AYES | [10.12 p.m. |
| Adley, Robert | Brown, Sir Edward (Bath) | d'Avigdor-Goldsmid, Maj.-Gen. James |
| Alison, Michael (Barkston Ash) | Bruce-Gardyne, J. | Dean, Paul |
| Allason, James (Hemel Hempstead) | Bryan, Paul | Deedes, Rt. Hn. W. F. |
| Amery, Rt. Hn. Julian | Buchanan-Smith, Alick (Angus, N&M) | Digby, Simon Wingfield |
| Archer, Jeffrey (Louth) | Buck, Antony | Dixon, Piers |
| Astor, John | Bullus, Sir Eric | Douglas-Home, Rt. Hn. Sir Alec |
| Atkins, Humphrey | Burden, F. A. | Drayson, G. B. |
| Awdry, Daniel | Butler, Adam (Bosworth) | du Cann, Rt. Hn. Edward |
| Baker, Kenneth (St. Marylebone) | Campbell, Rt. Hn. G. (Moray&Nairn) | Dykes, Hugh |
| Balniel, Rt. Hn. Lord | Carlisle, Mark | Edwards, Nicholas (Pembroke) |
| Batsford, Brian | Carr, Rt. Hn. Robert | Elliot, Capt. Walter (Carshalton) |
| Beamish, Col. Sir Tufton | Chapman, Sydney | Elliott, R. W. (N'c'tle-upon-Tyne, N.) |
| Bell, Ronald | Chataway, Rt. Hn. Christopher | Emery, Peter |
| Bennett, Dr. Reginald (Gosport) | Churchill, W. S. | Eyre, Reginald |
| Benyon, W. | Clark, William (Surrey, E.) | Farr, John |
| Berry, Hn. Anthony | Clarke, Kenneth (Rushcliffe) | Fenner, Mrs. Peggy |
| Bitten, John | Clegg, Walter | Fidler, Michael |
| Biggs-Davison, John | Cooke, Robert | |
| Blaker, Peter | Coombs, Derek | Finsberg, Geoffrey (Hampstead) |
| Boardman, Tom (Leicester, S.W.) | Cooper, A. E. | Fisher, Nigel (Surbiton) |
| Body, Richard | Corfield, Rt. Hn. Frederick | Fletcher-Cooke, Charles |
| Boscawen, Robert | Cormack, Patrick | Fookes, Miss Janet |
| Bossom, Sir Clive | Costain, A. P. | Fowler, Norman |
| Bowden, Andrew | Critchley, Julian | Fox, Marcus |
| Braine, Sir Bernard | Crouch, David | Fry, Peter |
| Bray, Ronald | Crowder, F. P. | Galbraith, Hn. T. G. |
| Brinton, Sir Tatton | Davies, Rt. Hn. John (Knutsford) | Gibson-Watt, David |
| Brocklebank-Fowler, Christopher | d'Avigdor-Goldsmid, Sir Henry | Gilmour, Ian (Norfolk, C.) |
a tenant under paragraph 4 or 5 above or paragraph 1 of Schedule 4 below'.
§ No. 74, in line 27, leave out '£9.50' and insert '£10.50'.
§ No. 75, in line 28, leave out '£13.50' and insert '£14.75'.
§ No. 76, in line 30, leave out '£13.50' and insert '£14.75'.
§ No. 77, in line 31, leave out '£2.50' and insert '£2.75'.
§ No. 78, in line 34, leave out '£10.75' and insert '£11.75'.
§ No. 79, in line 35, leave out '£14.75' and insert '£16.00'.
§ No. 80, in line 37, leave out '£14.75' and insert '£16.00'.
§ No. 81, in line 38, leave out '£15.50' and insert '£16.75'.
§
No. 82, in page 117, line 5, leave out
'or for use of furniture or for services'.
§
No. 83, in line 9, at end insert—
(cc) any sums payable by virtue of regulations made under section 81 of the Education Act 1944 (financial assistance for education);.—[Mr. Eyre.]
§ Amendment proposed:
§
No. 86, in page 119, line 17, leave out paragraph (b) and insert—
(b) for each person in receipt of supplementary benefit…£0.70;.—[Mr. Eyre.]
§ Question put, That the Amendment be made:—
§ The House divided: Ayes 272, Noes 259.
| Gilmour, Sir John (Fife, E.) | Longden, Sir Gilbert | Rost, Peter |
| Godber, Rt. Hn. J. B | Loveridge, John | Royle, Anthony |
| Goodhart, Philip | Luce, R. N. | Russell, Sir Ronald |
| Goodhew, Victor | McAdden, Sir Stephen | St. John-Stevas, Norman |
| Gower, Raymond | MacArthur, Ian | Sandys, Rt. Hn. D. |
| Grant, Anthony (Harrow, C.) | McCrindle, R. A | Scott, Nicholas |
| Green, Alan | McLaren, Martin | Sharples, Richard |
| Grieve, Percy | Maclean, Sir Fitzroy | Shaw, Michael (Sc'b'gh & Whitby) |
| Griffiths, Eldon (Bury St. Edmunds) | Macmillan, Rt. Hn. Maurice (Farnham) | Shelton, William (Clapham) |
| Grylls, Michael | McNair-Wilson, Michael | Simeons, Charles |
| Gummer, J. Selwyn | McNair-Wilson, Patrick (NewForest) | Sinclair, Sir George |
| Gurden, Harold | Maddan, Martin | Skeet, T. H. H. |
| Hall, Miss Joan (Keighley) | Madel, David | Smith, Dudley (W'wick & L'mington) |
| Hall, John (Wycombe) | Marples, Rt. Hn Ernes | Soref, Harold |
| Hall-Davis, A. G. F. | Marten, Nell | Speed, Keith |
| Hamilton, Michael (Salisbury) | Mather, Carol | Spence, John |
| Hannam, John (Exeter) | Maude, Angus | Sproat, Iain |
| Harrison, Col. Sir Harwood (Eye) | Maudling, Rt. Hn. Reginald | Stainton, Keith |
| Haselhurst, Alan | Mawby, Ray | Stanbrook, Ivor |
| Hastings, Stephen | Maxwell-Hyslop, R. J | Stewart-Smith, Geoffrey (Belper) |
| Havers, Michael | Meyer, Sir Anthony | Stodart, Anthony (Edinburgh, W.) |
| Hawkins, Paul | Mills, Peter (Torrington) | Stoddart-Scott, Col. Sir M |
| Hay, John | Miscampbell, Norman | Stokes, John |
| Hayhoe, Barney | Mitchell, Lt.-Col. C. (Aberdeenshire. W) | Stuttaford, Dr. Tom |
| Heseltine, Michael | Moate, Roger | Taylor, Frank (Moss Side) |
| Hicks, Robert | Money, Ernle | Taylor, Robert (Croydon, N.W.) |
| Higgins, Terence L | Monks, Mrs. Connie | Tebbit, Norman |
| Hiley, Joseph | Monro, Hector | Temple, John M. |
| Hill, John E. B. (Norfolk, S.) | Montgomery, Fergus | Thatcher, Rt. Hn. Mrs. Margaret |
| Hill, James (Southampton, Test) | More, Jasper | Thomas, John Stradling (Monmouth) |
| Holland, Philip | Morgan-Giles, Rear-Adm | Thomas, Rt. Hn. Peter (Hendon, S.) |
| Holt, Miss Mary | Morrison, Charles | Thompson, Sir Richard (Croydon, S.) |
| Hordern, Peter | Mudd, David | Tilney, John |
| Hornby, Richard | Murton, Oscar | Trafford, Dr. Anthony |
| Hornsby-Smith. Rt. Hn. Dame Patricia | Nabarro, Sir Geralr | Trew, Peter |
| Howe, Hn. Sir Geoffrey (Reigate) | Neave, Airey | Tugendhat, Christopher |
| Howell, David (Guildford) | Normanton, Tom | Turton, Rt. Hn. Sir Robin |
| Howell, Ralph (Norfolk, N.) | Nott, John | van Straubenzee, W. R |
| Hunt, John | Onslow, Cranley | Vaughan, Dr. Gerard |
| Iremonger, T. L. | Oppenheim, Mrs. Sally | Vickers, Dame Joan |
| Irvine, Bryant Godman (Rye) | Osborn, John | Waddington, David |
| James, David | Owen, Idris (Stockport, N.) | Walder, David (Clitheroe) |
| Jenkin, Patrick (Woodford) | Page, Graham (Crosby) | Walker, Rt. Hn. Peter (Worcester) |
| Jennings, J. C. (Burton) | Page, John (Harrow, W.) | Walker-Smith, Rt. Hn. Sir Derek |
| Jessel, Toby | Parkinson, Cecil | Walters, Dennis |
| Johnson Smith, G. (E. Grinstead) | Percival, Ian | Ward, Dame Irene |
| Jones, Arthur (Northants, S.) | Pike, Miss Mervyn | Warren, Kenneth |
| Jopling, Michael | Pink, R. Bonner | Weatherill, Bernard |
| Joseph, Rt. Hn. Sir Keith | Powell, Rt. Hn. J. Enoch | Wells, John (Maidstone) |
| Kaberry, Sir Donald | Price, David (Eastleigh) | White, Roger (Gravesend) |
| Kellett-Bowman, Mrs. Elaine | Prior, Rt. Hn. J. M. L. | Wiggin, Jerry |
| Kershaw, Anthony | Proudfoot, Wilfred | Wilkinson, John |
| Kimball, Marcus | Pym, Rt. Hn. Francis | Winterton, Nicholas |
| King, Evelyn (Dorset, S.) | Quennell, Miss J. M | Wood, Rt. Hn. Richard |
| King, Tom (Bridgwater) | Raison, Timothy | Woodhouse, Hn. Christopher |
| Kinsey, J. R. | Ramsden, Rt. Hn. James | Woodnutt, Mark |
| Kitson, Timothy | Redmond, Robert | Worsley, Marcus |
| Knight, Mrs. Jill | Reed, Laurance (Bolton, E.) | Wylie, Rt. Hn. N. R. |
| Knox, David | Rees, Peter (Dover) | Younger, Hn. George |
| Lane, David | Rees-Davies, W. R. | |
| Langford-Holt, Sir John | Renton, Rt. Hn. Sir David | TELLERS FOR THE AYES: |
| Legge-Bourke, Sir Harry | Rhys Williams, Sir Brandon | Mr. Tim Fortescue and |
| Le Marchant, Spencer | Ridsdale, Julian | Mr. Hamish Gray. |
| Lewis, Kenneth (Rutland) | Roberts, Michael (Cardiff, N.) | |
| Lloyd, Ian (P'tsm'th, Langstone) | Roberts, Wyn (Conway) |
| NOES | ||
| Abse, Leo | Bidwell, Sydney | Cant, R. B. |
| Albu, Austen | Bishop, E. S. | Carmichael, Neil |
| Allaun, Frank (Saltord, E.) | Blenkinsop, Arthur | Carter, Ray (Birmingh'm, Northfield) |
| Archer, Peter (Rowley Regis) | Boardman, H. (Leigh) | Carter-Jones, Lewis (Eccles) |
| Armstrong, Ernest | Booth, Albert | Castle, Rt. Hn. Barbara |
| Ashley, Jack | Bottomley, Rt. Hn. Arthur | Clark, David (Colne Valley) |
| Ashton, Joe | Bradley, Tom | Cocks, Michael (Bristol, S.) |
| Atkinson, Norman | Broughton, Sir Alfred | Cohen, Stanley |
| Bagier, Gordon A. 1. | Brown, Bob (N'c'tle-upon-Tyne, W.) | Coleman, Donald |
| Barnes, Michael | Brown, Hugh D. (G'gow, Provan) | Concannon, J. D. |
| Barnett, Guy (Greenwich) | Brown, Ronald (Shoreditch & F'bury) | Conlan, Bernard |
| Barnett, Joel (Heywood and Royton) | Buchan, Norman | Corbet, Mrs. Freda |
| Baxter, William | Buchanan, Richard (G'gow, Sp'burn) | Cox, Thomas (Wandsworth, C.) |
| Benn, Rt. Hn. Anthony Wedgwood | Butler, Mrs. Joyce (Wood Green) | Cronin, John |
| Bennett, James (Glasgow, Bridgeton) | Campbell, I. (Dunbartonshire, W.) | Crosland, Rt. Hn. Anthony |
| Crossman, Rt. Hn. Richard | Janner, Greville | Pardoe, John |
| Cunningham, G. (Islington, S.W.) | Jay, Rt. Hn. Douglas | Parry, Robert (Liverpool, Exchange) |
| Cunningham, Dr. J. A. (Whitehaven) | Jeger, Mrs. Lena | Pavitt, Laurie |
| Dalyell, Tam | Jenkins, Hugh (Putney) | Pendry, Tom |
| Davidson, Arthur | Jenkins, Rt. Hn. Roy (Stechford) | Pentland, Norman |
| Davies, Denzil (Llanelly) | John, Brynmor | Perry, Ernest G. |
| Davies, Ifor (Gower) | Johnson, Carol (Lewisham, S.) | Prentice, Rt. Hn. Reg. |
| Davis, Clinton (Hackney, C.) | Johnson, James (K'ston-on-Hull, W.) | Prescott, John |
| Davis, Terry (Bromsgrove) | Jones, Dan (Burnley) | Price, J. T. (Westhoughton) |
| Deakins, Eric | Jones, Rt. Hn. Sir Elwyn (W. Ham, S.) | Price, William (Rugby) |
| de Freitas, Rt. Hn. Sir Geoffrey | Jones, Gwynoro (Carmarthen) | Probert, Arthur |
| Delargy, H. J. | Jones, T. Alec (Rhondda, W.) | Rankin, John |
| Dell, Rt. Hn. Edmund | Kaufman, Gerald | Reed, D. (Sedgefield) |
| Dempsey, James | Kelley, Richard | Rhodes, Geoffrey |
| Doig, Peter | Kinnock, Nell | Richard, Ivor |
| Dormand, J. D. | Lambie, David | Roberts, Albert (Normanton) |
| Douglas, Dick (Stirlingshire, E.) | Lamond, James | Robertson, John (Paisley) |
| Douglas-Mann, Bruce | Latham, Arthur | Roderick, Caerwyn E. (Br'c'n&R'dnor) |
| Driberg, Tom | Leadbitter, Ted | Roper, John |
| Duffy, A. E. P. | Lee, Rt. Hn. Frederick | Rose, Paul B. |
| Dunnett, Jack | Leonard, Dick | Ross, Rt. Hn. William (Kilmarnock) |
| Eadie, Alex | Lestor, Miss Joan | Rowlands, Edward |
| Edelman, Maurice | Lever, Rt. Hn. Harold | Sandelson, Neville |
| Edwards, Robert (Bilston) | Lewis, Arthur (W. Ham, N.) | Sheldon, Robert (Ashton-under-Lyne) |
| Edwards, William (Merioneth) | Lewis, Ron (Carlisle) | Shore, Rt. Hn. Peter (Stepney) |
| Ellis, Tom | Lipton, Marcus | Short, Pt. Hn. Edward (N'c'tle-u-Tyne) |
| English, Michael | Lomas, Kenneth | Short, Mrs. Renée (W'hamplon, N. E.) |
| Evans, Fred | Longhlin, Charles | Silkin, Rt. Hn. John (Deptford) |
| Ewing, Henry | Lyon, Alexander W. (York) | Silkin, Hn. S. C. (Dulwich) |
| Faulds, Andrew | Mabon, Dr. J. Dickson | Sillars, James |
| Fisher, Mrs. Doris (B'ham, Ladywood) | McBride, Neil | Silverman, Julius |
| Fitch, Alan (Wigan) | McCartney, Hugh | Skinner, Dennis |
| Fletcher, Raymond (llkeston) | McElhone, Frank | Small, William |
| Fletcher, Ted (Darlington) | Mackenzie, Gregor | Smith, John (Lanarkshire, N.) |
| Foley, Maurice | Mackie, John | Spearing, Nigel |
| Foot, Michael | Mackintosh, John P. | Spriggs, Leslie |
| Ford, Ben | McMillan, Tom (Glasgow, C.) | Stallard, A. W. |
| Forrester, John | McNamara, J. Kevin | Steel, David |
| Fraser, John (Norwood) | Mallalieu, J. P. W. (Huddersfield, E.) | Stewart, Donald (Western Isles) |
| Freeson, Reginald | Marks, Kenneth | Stoddart, David (Swindon) |
| Galpern, Sir Myer | Marquand, David | Strauss, Rt. Hn. G. R. |
| Garrett, W. E. | Marsden, F. | Summerskill, Hn. Dr. Shirley |
| Gilbert, Dr. John | Marshall, Dr. Edmund | Swain, Thomas |
| Ginsburg, David (Dewsbury) | Mason, Rt. Hn. Roy | Thomas, Jeffrey (Abertillery) |
| Golding, John | Mayhew, Christopher | Thomson, Rt. Hn. G. (Dundee, E.) |
| Gordon Walker, Rt. Hn. P. C. | Meacher, Michael | Thorpe, Rt. Hn. Jeremy |
| Gourlay, Harry | Mellish, Rt. Hn. Robert | Tinn, James |
| Grant, George (Morpeth) | Mendelson, John | Tomney, Frank |
| Grant. John D. (Islington, E.) | Mikardo, Ian | Torney, Tom |
| Griffiths. Eddie (Brightside) | Millan, Bruce | Tuck, Raphael |
| Miller, Dr. M. S. | Urwin, T. W. | |
| Grimond, Rt. Hn. J. | Milne, Edward | Varley, Eric G. |
| Hamilton, James (Bothwell) | Mitchell, R. C. (S'hampton, Itchen) | Wainwright, Edwin |
| Hamilton, William (Fife, W.) | Molloy, William | Walden, Brian (B'm'ham, All Saints) |
| Hamling, William | Morgan, Elystan (Cardiganshire) | Wallace, George |
| Hannan, William (G'gow, Maryhill) | Morris, Alfred (Wythenshawe) | Watkins, David |
| Hardy, Peter | Morris, Charles R. (Openshaw) | Weitzman, David |
| Harrison, Walter (Wakefield) | Morris, Rt. Hn. John (Aberavon) | Wellbeloved, James |
| Hart, Rt. Hn. Judith | Moyle, Roland | Wells, William (Walsall, N.) |
| Hattersley, Roy | Mulley, Rt. Hn. Frederick | White, James (Glasgow, Pollok) |
| Healey, Rt. Hn. Denis | Murray, Ronald King | Whitehead, Phillip |
| Heffer, Eric S. | Oakes, Gordon | Whitlock, William |
| Hooson, Emlyn | Ogden, Eric | Willey, Rt. Hn. Frederick |
| Horam, John | O'Halloran, Michael | Williams, Alan (Swansea, W.) |
| Houghton, Rt. Hn. Douglas | O'Malley, Brian | Williams, Mrs. Shirley (Hitchin) |
| Howell, Denis (Small Heath) | Oram, Bert | Williams, W. T. (Warrington) |
| Huckfied, Leslie | Orbach, Maurice | Wilson, Alexander (Hamilton) |
| Hughes, Rt. Hn. Cledwyn (Anglesey) | Orme, Stanley | Wilson, William (Coventry, S.) |
| Hughes, Mark (Durham) | Oswald, Thomas | Woof, Robert |
| Hughes, Robert (Aberdeen, N.) | Owen, Dr. David (Plymouth, Sutton) | |
| Hughes, Roy (Newport) | Paget, R. T. | TELLERS FOR THE NOES: |
| Hunter, Adam | Palmer, Arthur | Mr. James A. Dunn and |
| Irvine, Rt. Hn. SirArthur (Edge Hill) | Pannell. Rt. Hn. Charles | Mr. Joseph Harper. |
§ Question accordingly agreed to.
§ Amendments made:
§ No. 87 in page 119, line 21, leave out '£1.00' and insert '£0.70'.
§ No. 88 in line 23, leave out '£1.50' and insert '£0.70'.
1202§ No. 89 in page 120, line 1, leave out paragraph 15 and insert:
§ Transitional rebate or allowance
§ 15.—(1) An authority may grant to any person a rebate of such an amount commencing at such time and continuing for such period and subject to such conditions as the 1203 Secretary of State may by general or particular direction provide if—
- (a) part of the rent under his tenancy was met by a rebate for the rental period immediately preceding that in which their rebate scheme comes into operation; and
- (b) the condition mentioned in sub-paragraph (3) below is satisfied in his case.
§ (2) An authority may grant to any person an allowance of such amount commencing at such time and continuing for such period and subject to such conditions as the Secretary of State may by general or particular direction provide if—
- (a) part of the rent under his tenancy was met for the rental period immediately preceding that in which their allowance scheme comes into operation by an allowance granted by virtue of a scheme under a local Act for the payment of such allowances; and
- (b) the condition mentioned in sub-paragraph (3) below is satisfied in his case.
§ (3) The condition that must be satisfied in the case of any person before he is granted a rebate or allowance by virtue of this paragraph is that the rent remaining to be met by him (after taking account of any rebate or allowance granted otherwise than by virtue of this paragraph) was less during the rental period mentioned in paragraph (a) of sub-paragraph (1) or, as the case may be, paragraph (a) of sub-paragraph (2) above than during the first rental period after the relevant scheme under this Act came into operation.
§ (4) Where an authority grant a rebate or allowance under this paragraph to a person to whom they grant a rebate or allowance apart from this paragraph, the amount granted under this paragraph shall be additional to the amount of that other rebate or allowance.
§
No. 91 in line 42, leave out from 'to' to 'to' in line 43 and insert:
'consider whether they ought in all the circumstances to treat the rent as reduced by an appropriate amount, and if in their opinion they ought to treat it as reduced,'.
§
No. 93 in page 121, line 10, leave out from 'exceeds' to 'but' in line 11 and insert:
'the minimum weekly rent mentioned in sub-paragraph (1) of paragraph 9 of this Schedule'.
§ No. 94 in line 13, leave out 'and 13' and insert '13, 14 and 16'.
§
No. 95 in line 28, after 'disregarding' insert:
'to the extent mentioned in paragraph 8(3) of this Schedule'.—[Mr. Eyre.]