HC Deb 04 August 1971 vol 822 cc1672-7

Subsequent Lords Amendments agreed to.

Lords Amendment: No. 110, in page 44, line 38, at end insert: (3A) Subsections (1) to (3) of this section shall have effect in relation to an order made under section 48 of this Act in respect of two or more associated employers, but for that purpose shall have effect as if—

  1. (a) any reference in those subsections to the employer were a reference to any of those employers;
  2. (b) in subsections (1)(a) and (2) references to carrying on collective bargaining were references to carrying on such bargaining either alone or jointly with any other employer or employers comprised in the order;
  3. (c) in subsection (1)(b) references to carrying on collective bargaining were references 1673 to carrying on such bargaining jointly with the other employer or employers comprised in the order.
(3B) In relation to an order which is made subject to a reservation under section 48(1A) of this Act, nothing in paragraph (a) or paragraph (b) of subsection (1) of this section shall be construed as applying to collective bargaining in respect of matters which, by virtue of that reservation, are excepted from the exclusive

negotiating rights of the sole bargaining agent.

Motion made and Question put, That this House doth agree with the Lords in the said Amendment:

The House divided: Ayes 252, Noes 220.

Division No. 463.] AYES [7.34 p.m.
Adley, Robert Finsberg, Geoffrey (Hampstead) Luce, R. N.
Alison, Michael (Barkston Ash) Fisher, Nigel (Surbiton) McAdden, Sir Stephen
Allason, James (Hemel Hempstead) Fookes, Miss Janet MacArthur, Ian
Archer, Jeffrey (Louth) Foster, Sir John McCrindle, R. A.
Atkins, Humphrey Fowler, Norman McLaren, Martin
Awdry, Daniel Fox, Marcus Maclean, Sir Fitzroy
Baker, Kenneth (St. Marylebone) Fraser, Rt. Hn. Hugh (st'fford & Stone) McMaster, Stanley
Baker, W. H. K. (Banff) Fry, Peter Macmillan, Maurice (Farnham)
Balniel, Lord Gardner, Edward McNair-Wilson, Michael
Barber, Rt. Hn. Anthony Gibson-Watt, David McNair-Wilson, Patrick (NewForest)
Batsford, Brian Gilmour, Ian (Norfolk, C.) Maddan, Martin
Beamish, Col. Sir Tufton Gilmour, Sir John (Fife, E.) Madel, David
Bell, Ronald Godber, Rt. Hn. J. B. Marten, Neil
Bennett, Sir Frederic (Torquay) Goodhart, Philip Mather, Carol
Benyon, W. Goodhew, Victor Maude, Angus
Berry, Hn. Anthony Gorst, John Mawby, Ray
Biffen, John Gower, Raymond Maxwell-Hyslop, R. J.
Biggs-Davison, John Grant, Anthony (Harrow, C.) Meyer, Sir Anthony
Blaker, Peter Gray, Hamish Mills, Peter (Torrington)
Boardman, Tom (Leicester, S. W.) Green, Alan Mitchell, David (Basingstoke)
Body, Richard Grieve, Percy Moate, Roger
Boscawen, Robert Griffiths, Eldon (Bury St. Edmunds) Money, Ernle
Bossom, Sir Clive Grimond, Rt. Hn. J. Monks, Mrs. Connie
Bowden, Andrew Grylls, Michael Monro, Hector
Boyd-Carpenter, Rt. Hn. John Gummer, Selwyn Montgomery, Fergus
Braine, Bernard Gurden, Harold More, Jasper
Bray, Ronald Hall, Miss Joan (Keighley) Morgan-Giles, Rear-Adm.
Brinton, Sir Tatton Hall, John (Wycombe) Morrison, Charles (Devizes)
Brocklebank-Fowler, Christopher Hall-Davis, A. G. F. Mudd, David
Brown, Sir Edward (Bath) Hamilton, Michael (Salisbury) Murton, Oscar
Bruce-Gardyne, J. Hannam, John (Exeter) Neave, Airey
Bryan, Paul Harrison, Col. Sir Harwood (Eye) Normanton, Tom
Buchanan-Smith, Alick (Angus, N&M) Haselhurst, Alan Nott, John
Buck, Antony Hastings, Stephen Onslow, Cranley
Bullus, Sir Eric Havers, Michael Oppenheim, Mrs. Sally
Burden, F. A. Hawkins, Paul Orr, Capt. L. P. S.
Butler, Adam (Bosworth) Hay, John Osborn, John
Carlisle, Mark Hayhoe, Barney Owen, Idris (Stockport, N.)
Carr, Rt. Hn. Robert Hicks, Robert Page, Graham (Crosby)
Channon, Paul Higgins, Terence L. Page, John (Harrow, W.)
Chapman, Sydney Hiley, Joseph Parkinson, Cecil (Enfield, W.)
Chichester-Clark, R. Hill, John E. B. (Norfolk, S.) Peel, John
Churchill, W. S. Hill, James (Southampton, Test) Percival, Ian
Clark, William (Surrey, E.) Holt, Miss Mary Pink, R. Bonner
Clarke, Kenneth (Rushcliffe) Hordern, Peter Pounder, Rafton
Clegg, Walter Hornby, Richard Powell, Rt. Hn. J. Enoch
Cockeram, Eric Hornsby-Smith, Rt. Hn. Dame Patricia Prior, Rt. Hn. J. M. L.
Coombs, Derek Howe, Hn. Sir Geoffrey (Reigate) Pym, Rt. Hn. Francis
Cormack, Patrick Howell, David (Guildford) Raison, Timothy
Costain, A. P. Howell, Ralph (Norfolk, N.) Rawlinson, Rt. Hn. Sir Peter
Critchley, Julian Hunt, John Redmond, Robert
Crouch, David Hutchison, Michael Clark Reed, Laurance (Bolton, E.)
Curran, Charles Iremonger, T. L. Rees, Peter (Dover)
d'Avigdor-Goldsmid, Sir Henry James, David Rees-Davies, W. R.
d'Avigdor-Goldsmid, Maj.-Gen.James Jessel, Toby Renton, Rt. Hn. Sir David
Dean, Paul Jopling, Michael Rhys Williams, Sir Brandon
Deedes, Rt. Hn. W. F. Kaberry, Sir Donald Ridley, Hn. Nicholas
Dixon, Piers Kellett-Bowman, Mrs. Elaine Ridsdale, Julian
Dodds-Parker, Douglas Kilfedder, James Roberts, Wyn (Conway)
Douglas-Home, Rt. Hn. Sir Alec King, Evelyn (Dorset, S.) Rodgers, Sir John (Sevenoaks)
Drayson, C. B. Kinsey, J. R. Rossi, Hugh (Hornsey)
du Cann, Rt. Hn. Edward Kirk, Peter Rost, Peter
Dykes, Hugh Knox, David Russell, Sir Ronald
Edwards, Nicholas (Pembroke) Lambton, Antony Scott, Nicholas
Eyre, Reginald Lane, David Scott-Hopkins, James
Farr, John Legge-Bourke, Sir Harry Sharples, Richard
Fell, Anthony Le Marchant, Spencer Shaw, Michael (Sc'b'gh & Whitby)
Fenner, Mrs. Peggy Lewis, Kenneth (Rutland) Shelton, William (Clapham)
Fidler, Michael Longden, Gilbert Sinclair, Sir George
Loveridge, John Skeet, T. H. H.
Smith, Dudley (W'wick & L'mington) Temple, John M. Walters, Dennis
Soref, Harold Thatcher, Rt. Hn. Mrs. Margaret Ward, Dame Irene
Speed, Keith Thomas, John Stradling (Monmouth) Wells, John (Maidstone)
Spence, John Thompson, Sir Richard (Croydon, S.) Whitelaw, Rt. Hn. William
Sproat, Iain Trafford, Dr. Anthony Wiggin, Jerry
Stanbrook, Ivor Trew, Peter Wilkinson, John
Stewart-Smith, Geoffrey (Belper) Tugendhat, Christopher Wolrige-Gordon, Patrick
Stokes, John Turton, Rt. Hn. Sir Robin Wood, Rt. Hn. Richard
Stuttaford, Dr. Tom van Straubenzee, W. R. Woodhouse, Hn. Christopher
Sutcliffe, John Vaughan, Dr. Gerard Worsley, Marcus
Tapsell, Peter Vickers, Dame Joan Wylie, Rt. Hn. N. R.
Taylor, Sir Charles (Eastbourne) Waddington, David
Taylor, Edward M. (G'gow, Cathcart) Walder, David (Clitheroe) TELLERS FOR THE AYES:
Taylor, Frank (Moss Side) Walker, Rt. Hn. Peter (Worcester) Mr. Tim Fortescue and
Taylor, Robert (Croydon, N. W.) Walker-Smith, Rt. Hn. Sir Derek Mr. Bernard Weatherill.
Tebbit, Norman Wall, Patrick
NOES
Albu, Austen Fisher, Mrs. Doris (B'ham, Lady wood) McBride, Neil
Allaun, Frank (Salford, E.) Fitch, Alan (Wigan) McGuire, Michael
Allen, Scholefield Fitt, Gerard (Belfast, W.) Mackenzie, Gregor
Archer, Peter (Rowley Regis) Fletcher, Ted (Darlington Mackie, John
Armstrong, Ernest Foley, Maurice Maclennan, Robert
Ashley, Jack Foot, Michael McMillan, Tom (Glasgow, C.)
Ashton, Joe Ford, Ben McNamara, J. Kevin
Atkinson, Norman Forrester, John Mallalieu, J. P. W. (Huddersfield, E.)
Barnett, Guy (Greenwich) Fraser, John (Norwood) Marks, Kenneth
Barnett, Joel (Heywood & Royton) Freeson, Reginald Marquand, David
Beaney, Alan Galpern, Sir Myer Marsden, F.
Benn, Rt. Hn. Anthony Wedgwood Garrett, W. E. Marshall, Dr. Edmund
Bennett, James (Glasgow, Bridgeton) Gilbert, Dr. John Meacher, Michael
Bidwell, Sydney Golding, John Mellish, Rt. Hn. Robert
Bishop, E. S. Gordon Walker, Rt. Hn. P. C. Mendelson, John
Blenkinsop, Arthur Gourlay, Harry Millan, Bruce
Boardman, H. (Leigh) Grant, George (Morpeth) Miller, Dr. M. S.
Booth, Albert Grant, John D. (Islington, E.) Milne, Edward (Blyth)
Bottomley, Rt. Hn. Arthur Griffiths, Eddie (Brightside) Mitchell, R. C. (S'hampton, Itchen)
Boyden, James (Bishop Auckland) Hamilton, William (Fife, W.) Molloy, William
Bradley, Tom Hardy, Peter Morgan, Elystan (Cardiganshire)
Brown, Bob (N'c'tle-upon-Tyne, W.) Harper, Joseph Morris, Alfred (Wythenshawe)
Brown, Hugh D. (G'gow, Provan) Harrison, Walter (Wakefield) Morris, Charles R. (Openshaw)
Brown, Ronald (Shoreditch & F'bury) Hart, Rt. Hn. Judith Morris, Rt. Hn. John (Aberavon)
Buchan, Norman Hattersley, Roy Moyle, Roland
Buchanan, Richard (G'gow, Sp'burn) Healey, Rt. Hn. Denis Mulley, Rt. Hn. Frederick
Callaghan, Rt. Hn. James Heffer, Eric S. Murray, Ronald King
Cant, R, B. Horam, John Ogden, Eric
Carmichael, Neil Houghton, Rt. Hn. Douglas O'Halloran, Michael
Clark, David (Colne Valley) Howell, Denis (Small Heath) O'Malley, Brian
Cocks, Michael (Bristol, S.) Huckfield, Leslie Oram, Bert
Cohen, Stanley Hughes, Mark (Durham) Orme, Stanley
Coleman, Donald Hughes, Robert (Aberdeen, N.) Oswald, Thomas
Conlan, Bernard Hughes, Roy (Newport) Paget, R. T.
Corbet, Mrs. Freda Hunter, Adam Palmer, Arthur
Cox, Thomas (Wandsworth, C.) Irvine, Rt. Hn. Sir Arthur (Edge Hill) Pannell, Rt. Hn. Charles
Crawshaw, Richard Janner, Greville Parker, John (Dagenham)
Cronin, John Jay, Rt. Hn. Douglas Parry, Robert (Liverpool, Exchange)
Crossman, Rt. Hn. Richard Jeger, Mrs. Lena (H'b'n&St. P'cras, S.) Peart, Rt. Hn. Fred
Cunningham, G. (Islington, S. W.) Jenkins, Hugh (Putney) Pendry, Tom
Dalyell, Tam Jenkins, Rt. Hn. Roy (Stechford) Pentland, Norman
Darling, Rt. Hn. George John, Brynmor Perry, Ernest G.
Davidson, Arthur Johnson, Carol (Lewisham, S.) Prentice, Rt. Hn. Reg.
Davies, Denzil (Llanelly) Johnson, James (K'ston-on-Hull, W.) Prescott, John
Davies, G. Elfed (Rhondda, E.) Johnson, Walter (Derby, S.) Price, J. T. (Westhoughton)
Davies, Ifor (Gower) Jones, Barry (Flint, E.) Probert, Arthur
Davies, S. O. (Merthyr Tydvil) Jones, Dan (Burnley) Reed, D. (Sedgefield)
Davis, Clinton (Hackney, C.) Jones, Gwynoro (Carmarthen) Rees, Merlyn (Leeds, S.)
Davis, Terry (Bromsgrove) Jones, T. Alec (Rhondda, W.) Rhodes, Geoffrey
Delargy, H. J. Judd, Frank Roberts, Rt. Hn. Goronwy (Caernarvon)
Dell, Rt. Hn. Edmund Kaufman, Gerald Rodgers, William (Stockton-on-Tees)
Doig, Peter Kelley, Richard Roper, John
Douglas, Dick (Stirlingshire, E.) Kinnock, Neil Rose, Paul B.
Douglas-Mann, Bruce Lambie, David Sandelson, Neville
Driberg, Tom Latham, Arthur Sheldon, Robert (Ashton-under-Lyne)
Duffy, A. E. P. Lawson, George Shore, Rt. Hn. Peter (Stepney)
Dunnett, Jack Leadbitter, Ted Short, Mrs. Renée (W'hampton, N.E.)
Eadie, Alex Lee, Rt. Hn. Frederick Silkin, Hn. S. C. (Dulwich)
Edelman, Maurice Leonard, Dick Silverman, Julius
Edwards, Robert (Bilston) Lewis, Arthur (W. Ham, N.) Skinner, Dennis
Edwards, William (Merioneth) Lewis, Ron (Carlisle) Small, William
English, Michael Lipton, Marcus Smith, John (Lanarkshire, N.)
Evans, Fred Loughlin, Charles Spearing, Nigel
Faulds, Andrew Lyon, Alexander W. (York) Spriggs, Leslie
Fernyhough, Rt. Hn. E. Lyons, Edward (Bradford, E.) Stallard, A. W.
Stewart, Rt. Hn. Michael (Fulham) Tomney, Frank Williams, Alan (Swansea, W.)
Stoddart, David (Swindon) Torney, Tom Williams, Mrs. Shirley (Hitchin)
Stonehouse, Rt. Hn. John Tuck, Raphael Wilson, Alexander (Hamilton)
Strang, Gavin Wainwright, Edwin Wilson, William (Coventry, S.)
Summerskill, Hn. Dr. Shirley Walker, Harold (Doncaster) Woof, Robert
Thomas, Rt. Hn. George (Cardiff, W.) Wallace, George
Thomas, Jeffery (Abertillery) Watkins, David TELLERS FOR THE NOES:
Thomson, Rt. Hn. G. (Dundee, E.) Whitehead, Phillip Mr. James Hamilton and
Tinn, James Willey, Rt. Hn. Frederick Mr. William Hamling.

Subsequent Lords Amendments agreed to.

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