§
Motion made, and Question proposed.
That a sum, not exceeding £4,835,616,500, be granted to Her Majesty out of the Consolidated Fund, on account, for or towards defraying the charges for the Civil Departments as set out in House of Commons Paper 143 for the year ending on the 31st day of March 1972.—[Mr. Patrick Jenkin.]
§ Mr. Roy Mason (Barnsley)I beg to move, That Class IV, Vote 1, be reduced by £5.
It ought to be more, but I gather that I am hampered by the Procedure Committee.
§ Question put:—
§ The House divided: Ayes 265, Noes 306.
549| Division No. 14.] | AYES | [9.58 p.m. |
| Abse, Leo | Duffy, A. E. P. | Kelley, Richard |
| Albu, Austen | Dunn, James A. | Kinnock, Neil |
| Allaun, Frank (Salford, E.) | Dunnett, Jack | Lambie, David |
| Alldritt, Walter | Eadie, Alex | Lamond, James |
| Allen, Scholefield | Edelman, Maurice | Latham, Arthur |
| Archer, Peter (Rowley Regis) | Edwards, Robert (Bilston) | Lawson, George |
| Armstrong, Ernest | Edwards, William (Merioneth) | Leadbitter, Ted |
| Ashley, Jack | Ellis, Tom | Lee, Rt. Hn. Frederick |
| Ashton, Joe | English, Michael | Leonard, Dick |
| Atkinson, Norman | Evans, Fred | Lestor, Miss Joan |
| Bagier, Cordon A. T. | Faulds, Andrew | Lever, Rt. Hn. Harold |
| Barnes, Michael | Fernyhough, E. | Lewis, Arthur (W. Ham, N.) |
| Barnett, Joel | Fisher, Mrs. Doris (B'ham, L'wood) | Lewis, Ron (Carlisle) |
| Baxter, William | Fletcher, Raymond (Ilkeston) | Lomas, Kenneth |
| Bennett, James (Glasgow, Bridgeton) | Fletcher, Ted (Darlington) | Loughlin, Charles |
| Bidwell, Sydney | Foley, Maurice | Lyon, Alexander W. (York) |
| Bishop, E. S. | Foot, Michael | Lyons, Edward (Bradford, E.) |
| Blenkinsop, Arthur | Ford, Ben | Mabon, Dr. J. Dickson |
| Boardman, H. (Leigh) | Forrester, John | McBride, Neil |
| Booth, Albert | Fraser, John (Norwood) | McCann, John |
| Bottomley, Rt. Hn. Arthur | Freeson, Reginald | McCartney, Hugh |
| Boyden, James (Bishop Auckland) | Galpern, Sir Myer | MacColl, James |
| Bradley, Tom | Garrett, W. E. | McElhone, Frank |
| Broughton, Sir Alfred | Gilbert, Dr. John | McGuire, Michael |
| Brown, Hugh D. (G'gow, Provan) | Ginsburg, David | Mackenzie, Gregor |
| Grant, George (Morpeth) | Mackie, John | |
| Brown, Bob (N'c'tle-upon-Tyne, W.) | Grant, John D. (Islington, East) | Mackintosh, John P. |
| Brown, Ronald (Shoreditch & F'bury) | Griffiths, Eddie (Brightside) | Maclennan, Robert |
| Buchan, Norman | Griffiths, Will (Exchange) | McMillan, Tom (Glasgow, C.) |
| Buchanan, Richard (G'gow, Sp'burn) | Gunter, Rt. Hn. R. J. | McNamara, J. Kevin |
| Butler, Mrs. Joyce (Wood Green) | Hamilton, James (Bothwell) | MacPherson, Malcolm |
| Callaghan, Rt. Hn. James | Hamilton, William (Fife, W.) | Mallalieu, J. P. W. (Huddersfield, E.) |
| Campbell, Ian (Dunbartonshire, West) | Hamling, William | Marks, Kenneth |
| Cant, R. B. | Hannan, William (G'gow, Maryhill) | Marquand, David |
| Carmichael, Neil | Hardy, Peter | Mason, Rt. Hn. Roy |
| Carter, Ray (Birmingh'm, Northfield) | Harper, Joseph | Mayhew, Christopher |
| Carter-Jones, Lewis (Exeter) | Harrison, Walter (Wakefield) | Meacher, Michael |
| Castle, Rt. Hn. Barbara | Hart, Rt. Hn. Judith | Mellish, Rt. Hn. Robert |
| Clark, David (Colne Valley) | Hattersley, Roy | Mendelson, John |
| Cocks, Michael | Healey, Rt. Hn. Denis | Mikardo, Ian |
| Cohen, Stanley | Heffer, Eric S. | Millan, Bruce |
| Coleman, Donald | Hilton, W. S. | Miller, Dr. M. S. |
| Concannon, J. D. | Horam, John | Molloy, William |
| Conlan, Bernard | Houghton, Rt. Hn. Douglas | Morgan, Eiystan (Cardiganshire) |
| Corbet, Mrs. Freda | Huckfield, Leslie | Morris, Alfred (Wythenshawe) |
| Cox, Thomas (Wandsworth, Central) | Hughes, Rt. Hn. Cledwyn (Anglesey) | Morris, Charles R. (Openshaw) |
| Crawshaw, Richard | Hughes, Dr. Mark (Durham) | Morris, Rt. Hn. John (Aberavon) |
| Cronin, John | Hughes, Robert (Aberdeen, North) | Moyle, Roland |
| Crosland, Rt. Hn. Anthony | Hughes, Roy (Newport) | Mulley, Rt. Hn. Frederick |
| Crossman, Rt. Hn. Richard | Hunter, Adam | Murray, Hn. Ronald King |
| Cunningham, G. (Islington, S. W.) | Irvine, Rt. Hn. Eir Arthur (Edge Hill) | Ogden, Eric |
| Cunningham, Dr. J. A. (Whitehaven) | Janner, Greville | O'Halloran, Michael |
| Darling, Rt. Hn. George | Jay, Rt. Hn. Douglas | O'Malley, Brian |
| Davidson, Arthur | Jeger, Mrs. Lena (H'b'n & St. P'cras, S.) | Oram, Bert |
| Davies, Denzil (Llanelly) | Jenkins, Hugh (Putney) | Orbach, Maurice |
| Davies, G. Elfed (Rhondda, E.) | Jenkins, Rt. Hn. Roy (Stechford) | Orme, Stanley |
| Davis, Clinton (Hackney, Central) | John, Brynmor | Oswald, Thomas |
| Deakins, Eric | Johnson, Carol (Lewisham, S.) | Owen, Dr. David (Plymouth, Sutton) |
| de Freitas, Rt. Hn. Sir Geoffrey | Johnson, James (K'ston-on-Hull, W.) | Padley, Walter |
| Delargy, H. J. | Johnson, Walter (Derby, South) | Paget, R. T. |
| Dell, Rt. Hn. Edmund | Jones, Barry (Flint, East) | Palmer, Arthur |
| Dempsey, James | Jones, Dan (Burnley) | Pannell, Rt. Hn. Charles |
| Doig, Peter | Jones, Rt. Hn. Sir Elwyn (W. Ham, S.) | Parker, John (Dagenham) |
| Dormand, J. D. | Jones, Gwynoro (Carmarthen) | Parry, Robert (L'pool, Exchange) |
| Douglas, Dick (Stirlingshire, E.) | Jones, T. Alec (Rhondda, W.) | Pavitt, Laurie |
| Douglas-Mann, Bruce | Judd, Frank | Peart, Rt. Hn. Fred |
| Driberg, Tom | Kaufman, Gerald | Pendry, Tom |
| Pentland, Norman | Silkin, Rt. Hn. John (Deptford) | Tuck, Raphael |
| Perry, Ernest G. (Battersea, S.) | Silkin, Hn. S. C. (Dulwich) | Urwin, T. W. |
| Prentice, Rt. Hn. Reg. | Sillars, James | Varley, Eric G. |
| Prescott, John | Silverman, Julius | Wainwright, Edwin |
| Price, J. T. (Westhoughton) | Skinner, Dennis | Walden, Brian (B'm'ham, All Saints) |
| Price, William (Rugby) | Small, William | Walker, Harold (Doncaster) |
| Probert, Arthur | Smith, John (Lanarkshire, North) | Wallace, George |
| Rankin, John | Spearing, Nigel | Watkins, David |
| Reed, D. (Sedgefield) | Spriggs, Leslie | Weitzman, David |
| Rees, Merlyn (Leeds, S.) | Stallard, A. W. | Wells, William (Walsall, N.) |
| Rhodes, Geoffrey | Stewart, Rt. Hn. Michael (Fulham) | White, James (Glasgow, Pollok) |
| Richard, Ivor | Stoddart, David (Swindon) | Whitlock, William |
| Roberts, Albert (Normanton) | Strang, Gavin | Willey, Rt. Hn. Frederick |
| Roberts, Rt. Hn. Goronwy (Caernarvon) | Strauss, Rt. Hn. G. R. | Williams, Alan (Swansea, W.) |
| Robertson, John (Paisley) | Summerskill, Hn. Dr. Shirley | Williams, W. T. (Warrington) |
| Roderick, Caerwyn E. (Br'c'n & R'dnor) | Swain, Thomas | Wilson, Alexander (Hamilton) |
| Rodgers, William (Stockton-on-Tees) | Taverne, Dick | Wilson, Rt. Hn. Harold (Huyton) |
| Roper, John | Thomas, Rt. Hn. George (Cardiff, W.) | Wilson, William (Coventry, S.) |
| Rose, Paul B. | Thomas, Jeffrey (Abertillery) | Woof, Robert |
| Ross, Rt. Hn. William (Kilmarnock) | Thomson, Rt. Hn. George (Dundee, E.) | |
| Sheldon, Robert (Ashton-under-Lyne) | Tinn, James | TELLERS FOR THE AYES |
| Shore, Rt. Hn. Peter (Stepney) | Tomney, Frank | Mr. Alan Fitch and |
| Short, Rt. Hn. Edward (N'c'Ie on Tyne) | Torney, Tom | Mr. John Golding. |
| NOES | ||
| Adley, Robert | Costain, A. P. | Hannam, John (Exeter) |
| Alison, Michael (Barkston Ash) | Critchley, Julian | Harrison, Brian (Maldon) |
| Allason, James (Hemel Hempstead) | Crouch, David | Harrison, Col. Sir Harwood (Eye) |
| Archer, Jeffrey (Louth) | Crowder, F. P. | Haselhurst, Alan |
| Astor, John | Dalkeith, Earl of | Hastings, Stephen |
| Atkins, Humphrey | Davies, Rt. Hn. John (Knutsford) | Havers, Michael |
| Awdrey, Daniel | d'Avigdor-Goldsmid, Sir Henry | Hawkins, Paul |
| Baker, Kenneth (St. Marylebone) | d'Avigdor-Goldsmid, Mal.-Gen. Jack | Hay, John |
| Baker, W. H. K. (Banff) | Dean, Paul | Hayhoe, Barney |
| Balniel, Lord | Deedes, Rt. Hn. W. F. | Heath, Rt. Hn. Edward |
| Barber, Rt. Hn. Anthony | Digby, Simon Wingfield | Heseltine, Michael |
| Batsford, Brian | Dixon, Piers | Hicks, Robert |
| Beamish, Col. Sir Tufton | Dodds-Parker, Douglas | Higgins, Terence L. |
| Bell, Ronald | Douglas-Home, Rt. Hn. Sir Alec | Hiley, Joseph |
| Bennett, Sir Frederic (Torquay) | Drayson, G. B. | Hill, J. E. B. (Norfolk, S.) |
| Bennett, Dr. Reginald (Gosport) | du Cann, Rt. Hn. Edward | Hill, James (Southampton, Test) |
| Benyon, W. | Dykes, Hugh | Holland, Philip |
| Berry, Hn. Anthony | Eden, Sir John | Holt, Miss Mary |
| Biffen, John | Edwards, Nicholas (Pembroke) | Hordern, Peter |
| Biggs-Davison, John | Elliot, Capt. Walter (Carshalton) | Hornby, Richard |
| Blaker, Peter | Elliott, R. W. (N'c'tle-upon-Tyne, N). | Hornsby-Smith, Rt. Hn. Dame Patricia |
| Boardman, Tom (Leicester, S. W.) | Emery, Peter | Howe, Sir Geoffrey (Reigate) |
| Body, Richard | Farr, John | Howell, Ralph (Norfolk, North) |
| Boscawen, Hn. R. T. | Fell, Anthony | Hunt, John |
| Bossom, Sir Clive | Fenner, Mrs. Peggy | Hutchison, Michael Clark |
| Bowden, Andrew | Fidler, Michael | Iremonger, T. L. |
| Boyd-Carpenter, Rt. Hn. John | Finsberg, Geoffrey (Hampstead) | Irvine, Bryant Godman (Rye) |
| Braine, Bernard | Fisher, Nigel (Surbiton) | James, David |
| Bray, Ronald | Fletcher-Cooke, Charles | Jenkin, Patrick (Woodford) |
| Brewis, John | Fookes, Miss Janet | Jennings, J. C. (Burton) |
| Brinton, Sir Tatton | Fortescue, Tim | Jessel, Toby |
| Brocklebank-Fowler, Christopher | Foster, Sir John | Johnson Smith, G. (E. Grinstead) |
| Brown, Sir Edward (Bath) | Fowler, Norman | Jones, Arthur (Northants, S.) |
| Bruce-Gardyne, J. | Fox, J. Marcus | Jopling, Michael |
| Bryan, Paul | Fraser, Rt. Hn. Hugh (St'ford & Stone) | Joseph, Rt. Hn. Sir Keith |
| Fry, Peter | Kaberry, Sir Donald | |
| Buchanan-Smith, Alick | Galbraith, Hon. T. G. | Kellett, Mrs. Elaine |
| Buck, Antony | Gardner, Edward | Kerby, Capt. Henry |
| Bullus, Sir Eric | Gibson-Watt, David | Kershaw, Anthony |
| Burden, F. A. | Gilmour, Ian (Norfolk, C.) | Kilfedder, James |
| Butler, Adam (Bosworth) | Gilmour, Sir John (Fife, E.) | Kimball, Marcus |
| Campbell, Rt. Hn. G. (Moray & Nairn) | Glyn, Dr. Alan | King, Tom (Bridgwater) |
| Carlisle, Mark | Godber, Rt. Hn. J. B. | Kinsey, Joseph |
| Cary, Sir Robert | Goodhart, Philip | Kirk, Peter |
| Channon, Paul | Goodhew, Victor | Kitson, Timothy |
| Chapman, Sydney | Gorst, John | Knight, Mrs. Jill |
| Chataway, Rt. Hn. Christopher | Gower, Raymond | Knox, David |
| Chichester-Clark, R. | Grant, Anthony (Harrow, C.) | Lambton, Antony |
| Churchill, W. S. | Gray, Hamish | Lane, David |
| Clark, William (Surrey, East) | Green, Alan | Langford-Holt, Sir John |
| Clegg, Walter | Grieve, Percy | Legge-Bourke, Sir Harry |
| Cockeram, Eric | Griffiths, Eldon (Bury St. Edmunds) | Le Marchant, Spencer |
| Cooke, Robert | Grimond, Rt. Hn. J. | Lewis, Kenneth (Rutland) |
| Coombs, Derek | Grylls, Michael | Lloyd, Rt. Hn. Geoffrey (Sut'n C'd field) |
| Cooper, A. E. | Gummer, Selwyn | Lloyd, Ian (P'tsm'th, Langstone) |
| Cordle, John | Gurden, Harold | Lloyd, Rt. Hn. Selwyn (Wirral) |
| Corfield, F. V. | Hall, Miss Joan (Keighley) | Longden, Gilbert |
| Cormack, Patrick | Hall-Davis, A. G. F. | Loveridge, John |
| McAdden, Sir Stephen | Peyton, Rt. Hn. John | Stoddart-Scott, Col. Sir Malcolm |
| MacArthur, Ian | Pink, R. Bonner | Stokes, John |
| McCrindle, R. A. | Pounder, Rafton | Stuttaford, Dr. Tom |
| McLaren, Martin | Powell, Rt. Hn. J. Enoch | Sutcliffe, John |
| Maclean, Sir Fitzroy | Price, David (Eastleigh) | Tapsell, Peter |
| McMaster, Stanley | Prior, Rt. Hn. J. M. L. | Taylor, Sir Charles (Eastbourne) |
| McNair-Wilson, Michael (W'stow, E.) | Proudfoot, Wilfred | Taylor, Edward M. (G'gow, Cathcart) |
| McNair-Wilson, Patrick (New Forest) | Pym, Rt. Hn. Francis | Taylor, Robert (Croydon, N. W.) |
| Maddan, Martin | Quennell, Miss J. M. | Tebbit, Norman |
| Madel, David | Raison, Timothy | Temple, John M. |
| Maginnis, John E. | Ramsden, Rt. Hn. James | Thatcher, Rt. Hn. Mrs. Margaret |
| Marples, Rt. Hn. Ernest | Rawlinson, Rt. Hn. Sir Peter | Thomas, John Stradling (Monmouth) |
| Marten, Neil | Redmond, Robert | Thomas, Rt. Hn. Peter (Hendon, S.) |
| Mather, Carol | Reed, Laurance (Bolton, East) | Thompson, Sir Richard (Croydon, S.) |
| Maude, Angus | Rees, Hn. Peter (Dover) | Tilney, John |
| Maudling, Rt. Hn. Reginald | Rees-Davies, W. R. | Trafford, Dr. Anthony |
| Mawby, Ray | Renton, Rt. Hn. Sir David | Trew, Peter |
| Maxwell-Hyslop, R. J. | Rhys Williams, Sir Brandon | Tugendhat, Christopher |
| Meyer, Sir Anthony | Ridley, Hn. Nicholas | Turton, Rt. Hn. R. H. |
| Mills, Peter (Torrington) | Ridsdale, Julian | van Straubenzee, W. R. |
| Mills, Stratton (Belfast, N.) | Rippon, Rt. Hn. Geoffrey | Vaughan, Dr. Gerard |
| Miscampbell, Norman | Roberts, Michael (Cardiff, North) | Vickers, Dame Joan |
| Mitchell, David (Basingstoke) | Roberts, Wyn (Conway) | Waddington, David |
| Mitchell, Lt.-Col. C.(Aberdeenshire, W) | Rodgers, Sir John (Sevenoaks) | Walder, David (Clitheroe) |
| Moate, Roger | Rossi, Hugh (Hornsey) | Walker, Rt. Hn. Peter (Worcester) |
| Molynoaux, James | Rost, Peter | Walker-Smith, Rt. Hn. Sir Derek |
| Money, Ernle D. | Royle, Anthony | Wall, Patrick |
| Monks, Mrs. Connie | Russell, Sir Ronald | Walters, Dennis |
| Monro, Hector | St. John-Stevas, Norman | Ward, Dame Irene |
| Montgomery, Fergus | Scott, Nicholas | Warren, Kenneth |
| Morgan, Geraint (Denbigh) | Scott-Hopkins, James | Weatherill, Bernard |
| Morrison, Charles (Devizes) | Sharples, Richard | Wells, John (Maidstone) |
| Mudd, David | Shaw, Michael (Sc'b'gh & Whitby) | White, Roger (Gravesend) |
| Murton, Oscar | Shelton, William (Clapham) | Whitelaw, Rt. Hn. William |
| Nabarro, Sir Gerald | Simeons, Charles | Wilkinson, John |
| Neave, Airey | Sinclair, Sir George | Wolrige-Gordon, Patrick |
| Nicholls, Sir Harmar | Skeet, T. H. H. | Wood, Rt. Hn. Richard |
| Noble, Rt. Hn. Michael | Smith, Dudley (W'wick & L'mington) | Woodhouse, Hn. Christopher |
| Normanton, Tom | Soref, Harold | Woodnutt, Mark |
| Nott, John | Speed, Keith | Worsley, Marcus |
| Onslow, Cranley | Spence, John | Wylie, Rt. Hn. N. R. |
| Owen, Idris (Stockport, North) | Sproat, Iain | |
| Page, Graham (Crosby) | Stainton, Keith | TELLERS FOR THE NOES: |
| Page, John (Harrow, W.) | Stanbrook, Ivor | Mr. Reginald Eyre and |
| Peel, John | Stewart-Smith, D. G. (Belper) | Mr. Jasper More. |
| Percival, Ian | Stodart, Anthony (Edinburgh, W.) | |
| Original Question again proposed. | ||
| It being after Ten o'clock, the debate stood adjourned. |