HC Deb 13 May 1970 vol 801 cc1240-1
48. Mr. Edward M. Taylor

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many children were receiving part-time education in Scotland at the most recent date for which figures are available; what percentage was in Glasgow; and what were the comparable figures in each of the past four years.

Dr. Dickson Mahon

The figures for January given in the replies of 22nd January and 10th February to the hon. Member for Perth and East Perthshire (Mr. MacArthur) are the latest available, At that time 46 per cent. of the children concerned were in Glasgow schools. The total for January 1969 was 7,191 and 55 per cent. of the children concerned were in Glasgow schools. I do not have January figures for earlier years.—[Vol. 794, c.190; Vol. 795, c.317]

Mr. Taylor

Does the Minister agree that this is a rather serious situation in which Glasgow is carrying far more than its fair share of the load? What plans have the Government to relieve the situation in Glasgow and, more important, to try to obtain more regular and up-to-date statistics?

Dr. Mabon

We are very concerned about the matter. We have asked for a regular return of the numbers of pupils in part-time education not only in January but also in May and September of each year. The supply of teachers for the primary teaching qualification courses —and it is in the primary schools that the fundamental shortage mainly lies—has risen from 2,049 in 1964–65 to 3,213 in the current session.

Mr. Hugh D. Brown

Since mal-distribution of teachers is the real problem, were any representations made during the recent salary negotiations on behalf of primary teachers to have the £100 rise increased to £200 in special areas?

Dr. Mabon

I would not like to answer that question off the cuff. I should like to consult my hon. Friend and my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State.

Mr. MacArthur

Is the Minister aware that while the grave shortage of teachers is particularly serious in the primary sector, the shortage is spreading and widening in the secondary sector? Is he aware that this comes immediately before, and in addition to, the very large shortage of teachers that there will be in the secondary sector in 1972? Will he recognise that this is a very grave matter requiring the most urgent attention?

Dr. Mabon

I recognise the gravity of the situation, which has been with us for a considerable time. Fortunately, the Government have made some progress, though I agree that it is not as much as we would like.