§ 5. Mr. Marksasked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if she will change the basis of a class size of 40 in the building of new primary schools and the conversion of old ones.
§ Mrs. ThatcherNothing in the Department's Regulations or practice requires new or remodelled primary schools to be designed for classes of 40 pupils.
§ Mr. MarksIs the Secretary of State aware that local authorities having conversions and mergers of schools are working on a basis of 40 children per classroom? Will she instruct local authorities to reduce this number so that more classrooms will be needed for the same number of children?
§ Mrs. ThatcherWe are constantly remodelling schools. The building regulations are based on the number of places in the school and nothing in the Regulations requires authorities to design those spaces for a particular number of children in the class. Indeed, they usually have very open plans in these days.
§ Mr. Edward ShortWhat is the right hon. Lady's target for class size? Does 730 she accept the target which I set out at Swansea on 12th March this year, or does she still adhere to the 1965 National Advisory Council target?
§ Mrs. ThatcherI noticed that the right hon. Gentleman set out a target, but, as usual, he did not provide the money for achieving it.
§ Mr. ShortIs the right hon. Lady aware that the previous Government increased the number of teachers in training by 86 per cent.? By what percentage will she increase the number of teachers?
§ Mrs. ThatcherThe limiting factor on class size now is not so much that of teacher supply as of capital resources for the extra space required.