HC Deb 05 February 1970 vol 795 c610
19. Mr. Hornby

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what is his estimate of the current shortage of teachers in maintained primary and secondary schools.

Miss Bacon

I estimate that the gap between the number of qualified teachers and the present target figure is about 35,000. We are trying to eliminate all classes over 39 by the beginning of the next school year.

Mr. Hornby

Will the right hon. Lady give her estimate of the date by which the schools will have the required number of teachers, bearing in mind the current recruitment figures and the raising of the school leaving age?

Miss Bacon

I estimate, on the basis of the present forecast, that the target figure will be reached in the middle of the 1970s. It was formerly believed that these ratios had to be achieved to eliminate oversize classes, but I have every hope that classes of over 40 pupils will be virtually eliminated well before the target figure for the total teacher supply is reached.

Mr. Marks

My right hon. Friend will be aware that six months ago she was being asked many Questions about the number of teachers likely to be unemployed, rather than about the shortage of teachers. Has she any evidence of unemployment?

Miss Bacon

No, none whatever.