27. Mr. Brian Harrisonasked the Minister of Public Building and Works whether he will now announce his proposals for a State Building Corporation.
§ Mr. John SilkinI have nothing to add to my replies to the hon. Member for Yeovil (Mr. Peyton) on 15th July, 10969.—[Vol. 787, col. 381.]
Mr. HarrisonSurely the shocking experience of direct labour departments, and most recently what has happened in Leicester, should convince the right hon. Gentleman that this ought to be buried, and that he ought not to pursue this matter at all?
§ Mr. SilkinI do not draw quite the same conclusions as the hon. Gentleman does, and I perhaps do not share the same facts as he does.
§ Mr. HefferIs it nto clear to my right hon. Friend that there is a greater urgency for a p7blic building corporation now than ever before, first, to increase the house building programme, and, second, to ensure that there is a real standard in the building industry which 394 all employers in the building industry can keep up to?
§ Mr. SilkinI think, and I have said this before, that any proposals, whatever they may be, which can assist in the efficiency of the building industry and in the production of more houses are of great advantage.
§ Mr. PeytonWill the right hon. Gentleman bear in mind that a fact is a fact whether he has a share in it or not? Second, will he take credit for his reticence this afternoon in not wishing to add to a totally unsatisfactory answer which he gave me in July? I was surprised that the right hon. Gentleman had the insolence to remind the House of it this afternoon.
§ Mr. SilkinMy reply to the second part of the hon. Gentleman's question is, "Yes, I do take great satisfaction from it". With regard to the first part, I was trying to be very kind. What are facts to me are guesses to hon. Gentlemen opposite.
§ Mr. FernyhoughWill my right hon. Friend disregard the bias and prejudice of hon. Gentlemen opposite in connection with direct labour schemes? Is he aware that Durham County Council's direct labour scheme has just completed a road project months ahead of schedule and saved £1- million on the contract?
§ Mr. SilkinI am grateful to my hon. Friend.
§ Mr. Chichester-ClarkIs the right hon. Gentleman aware that we on this side of the House will be content if he disregards all bias towards direct labour schemes and simply judges them on the facts?
§ Mr. SilkinI thought that that was what I was trying to do.