HC Deb 18 March 1969 vol 780 cc212-4
The Lord President of the Council and Leader of the House of Commons (Mr. Fred Peart)

With permission, Mr. Speaker, I wish to make a short business statement.

Tomorrow, there will be, until about seven o'clock, a debate on an Opposition Motion on the rising costs of home ownership. This will arise in Supply.

The business already announced will follow.

Mr. Heath

May I thank the Leader of the House for facilitating the arrangement of this business? Are we to understand that the rest of the Supply will continue for an additional time?

Mr. Peart

Yes.

Mr. Michael Foot

Did my right hon. Friend receive any representations through the usual channels that this debate on the mortgage rates—if the Opposition consider it to be a matter of importance—should be taken today instead of the Parliament (No. 2) Bill, or were there no representations from the Front Bench opposite to postpone the Parliament (No. 2) Bill at all?

Mr. Peart

My hon. Friend wishes to make his point. I note it.

Mr. Emrys Hughes

Does this mean that my right hon. Friend is taking more time out of our consideration of the Air Estimates? He has already stolen four hours from our consideration of the Defence Estimates. Does he intend to steal another two hours?

Mr. Peart

No. We can go on until midnight.

Mr. Arthur Lewis

Will the Leader of the House now answer the Question put by my hon. Friend the Member for Ebbw Vale (Mr. Michael Foot)? Did he receive any approaches from the Opposition Front Bench?

Mr. Speaker

Order. There is no need to put the same question twice at business question time.

Mr. Lewis

Then, Mr. Speaker, may I ask for an answer to my question?

Mr. Ogden

Will the Leader of the House suggest how I might answer a constituent who inquires how it is that the House of Commons can spend three hours debating the situation on mortgages and yet spend eight, 10, 12, or 15 hours considering the Parliament (No. 2) Bill?

Mr. Speaker

Order. Questions must be about tomorrow's business.

Sir Harmar Nicholls

On a point of order, Mr. Speaker. In order to help the House, are we to understand that, if a question is put to a Minister and he does not answer it, no one else can put the same question to try to get in answered?

Mr. Speaker

Order. The simple answer is commonsense. It is an otiose exercise—[Laughter.] Obviously I must translate.

Sir Harmar Nichollsrose

Mr. Speaker

Order. I am answering the hon. Gentleman. If an hon. Member asks a Minister a question and the Minister refuses to answer it, to ask it again does not secure an answer from the Minister.

Sir Harmar Nicholls

Further to that point of order, Mr. Speaker. There are occasions when it is the duty of the House to pursue certain questions. If the Minister does not answer a question, I would have thought that the House must pursue it. Your Ruling seems contrary to that.

Mr. Speaker

Order. Mr. Speaker never rules. He only advises the House on matters of commonsense.

Mr. Heath

Would not the Leader of the House agree that both he and the Opposition thought it more important to look after the convenience of the House by not changing the business with less than 24 hours' notice than to pander to the peculiar obsessions of the hon. Member for Ebbw Vale (Mr. Michael Foot)?

Mr. Peart

Yes, I agree. I thought that this change was for the convenience of the House.

Mr. Peyton

Mr. Speaker, further to the point of order raised by my hon. Friend the Member for Peterborough (Sir Harmar Nicholls). If, in your wisdom, you describe so innocent a pastime as repeating a question to a Minister as "an otiose exercise", would you be good enough to tell us with what graphic phrase you would describe the Government's pursuing the Parliament (No. 2) Bill?

Mr. Speaker

The hon. Gentleman must not tempt Mr. Speaker.