HC Deb 19 June 1969 vol 785 cc672-3
7. Mr. Brooks

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will invite a specialist firm experienced in organisation and methods analysis to examine the efficiency of operation of those British intelligence services, details of whose activities are made public.

Mr. Callaghan

The expert advice of the management services of the Civil Service Department is available and I do not need to call in a specialist outside firm.

Mr. Brooks

Does my right hon. Friend not agree that it is time that the Secret Service became a little more secret? Would he not agree that the behaviour of Mr. Greville Wynne in announcing that he had been a spy all along may effectively have pulled the rug from under Mr. Gerald Brooke's protestations of innocence? Would he not agree that while we are about it we could stop the Departmental battle on leaks which, if this morning's Press is to be believed, appears to have taken place over the Krogers?

Mr. Callaghan

None of these matters would be helped very much by an investigation into organisation and methods, but I do not accept that the case of Gerald Brooke should be considered on anything but its merits, which are not related in any sense to those of a professional spy.

Mr. Marten

Does not the Question asked by the hon. Member for Bebington (Mr. Brooks) show that he does not understand how the Secret Service works?

Mr. Callaghan

I do not know whether the hon. Member for Banbury (Mr. Marten) is claiming any greater knowledge. I was not aware that he had any. If he has, he should not have it.