HC Deb 21 April 1969 vol 782 cc27-8
14. Mr. Berry

asked the Minister of Transport what further plans have now been submitted to him for constructing underground lines in London.

Mr. Marsh

No firm plans, Sir, but London Transport is studying possible extensions to the system and is seeking Parliamentary powers to build the first section of the proposed Fleet Line from Baker Street to Trafalgar Square.

Mr. Berry

Would the right hon. Gentleman not recall that the Victoria Line, which was opened last month with great praise all around—rightly—particularly from the Minister, was started by the last Conservative Government? Would he not agree that it is important not to waste time and to look into not just the one he mentioned but a general enlargement of underground lines, since they are so important for solving commuter problems in the London area?

Mr. Marsh

Yes, Sir. Underground lines of this sort can show big incomes, but they are only applicable where there are heavy concentrations of passengers. Unless one does the arithmetic properly, it is also possible to waste a great deal of money.

Mr. Arthur Lewis

Has my right hon. Friend considered the possibility of an outer as well as an inner circle connecting the Greater London lines, which might prove cheaper and easier than having lines through London?

Mr. Marsh

Not at the moment. A scheme of this sort, of course, would be very expensive. As I said, I have no proposals to have such a thing at the moment.

Mr. Lubbock

Has the right hon. Gentleman received any proposals for underground tunnels of a sufficient diameter to take main line rolling stock? Would not this be a very good way of integrating the underground service with British Rail?

Mr. Marsh

I have no such proposals.

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