§ 36. Mr. James Davidsonasked the Lord President of the Council if he will move to amend Standing Orders so that the membership of the Scottish Grand Committee shall consist solely of the 71 elected Members from Scotland.
§ Mr. CrossmanNo, Sir. It is desirable that this Standing Committee, like others, should have representation from the House as a whole.
§ Mr. DavidsonWhy should not the votes of the people of Scotland be directly represented in the Scottish Grand Committee? It is, admittedly, a poor thing, but it is our own.
§ Mr. CrossmanI have now been Leader of the House long enough to know that whatever I say on the subject someone will disagree with it. I know that I have hon. Friends below the Gangway who would keenly resent the idea that no Englishman should have the right to sit on that Committee.
§ Mrs. EwingIs the Lord President of the Council aware that English members of the Scottish Grand Committee make little or no contribution to our debates—[Interruption.]—and that in Scotland their right to sit on the Committee is regarded as either a joke or an insult?
§ Mr. CrossmanI must say, if I may misquote, they also serve who only sit and listen.
§ 38. Mr. David Steelasked the Lord President of the Council if he will seek 29 to amend standing orders to enable meetings of the Scottish Grand Committee to be held in Parliament Hall, Edinburgh.
§ Mr. CrossmanThere are a number of difficulties involved in this suggestion, which I think might be suitable for consideration in the future by a Select Committee on Procedure.
§ Mr. SteelI am sure that the Lord President of the Council is aware that for a year or two now I have tried without success to get Scottish procedure considered by the Committee on Procedure. Is he aware that I have great confidence in his ability to overcome the difficulties involved in this Question?
§ Mr. CrossmanI appreciate the compliment. I can conceive of a committee which we could select and man which could consider this subject as one of its topics.
§ Mr. LawsonWill my right hon. Friend bear in mind that Scotland is an integral part of the United Kingdom, and that many of us on this side and, I think, on the other side, would be very seriously opposed to anything which would banish us to Edinburgh, and so not be able to play an effective part in United Kingdom affairs?
§ Mr. CrossmanI am aware that this point of view is likely to be represented on any Committee on Procedure.
§ Mrs. EwingIs the right hon. Gentleman able at this stage to state any of the objections that exist to this very reasonable proposal?
§ Mr. CrossmanI could have stated them, but I think that I am right in saying that there was an Adjournment debate a short time ago, when someone much more expert than I—the Secretary of State for Scotland—made a most admirable reply to that debate on this question, which the hon. Lady should no doubt judiciously study.