HC Deb 24 July 1968 vol 769 c553
7. Mr. John Lee

asked the Minister of Transport what stage has been reached in his review of the operation of the 30 miles per hour statutory speed limit.

The Joint Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Transport (Mr. Bob Brown)

The Department recently published a Green Paper on speed limit policy which suggests that the speed limit for most roads in densely built-up areas should remain at 30 m.p.h. However, it also describes several types of urban road where a higher limit would not be detrimental to safety. These ideas will be thoroughly discussed during consultation.

Mr. Lee

Whilst I am grateful for the publication of the very useful discussion paper, would my hon. Friend agree not to be bound by the conclusions, and to accept that the 30 m.p.h. limit is violated in so many instances, and the law brought into so much disrepute, that the limit needs to be amended in a good many cases?

Mr. Brown

There are no conclusions; the purpose of the Green Paper is to have discussions, and we shall then reach our conclusions. I could not agree that the 30 m.p.h. limit should be abolished altogether, certainly not at present, because there is a high level of accidents to pedestrians and cyclists in urban areas.

Mr. Webster

Is the hon. Gentleman aware that one of the biggest problems is adequate enforcement, that the Green Paper is very disappointing on criteria, and that there should be absolute clarity as to the limit to be enforced?

Mr. Brown

Irrespective of what limits we might care to impose, the police could never watch all of them all the time. It would not be sensible for them to attempt to do so. The right answer is to say precisely what we hope to do following the discussions on the Green Paper: to have the right limit which motorists will want to obey.