HC Deb 03 December 1968 vol 774 cc1244-7
Q5. Mr. Blaker

asked the Prime Minister if he will place in the Library a copy of his public speech at the Guildhall on 11th November about the country's economic situation.

The Prime Minister

I did so, Sir, on 12th November. The hon. Gentleman will know I so informed the House in reply to a Question by my hon. Friend the Member for Bothwell (Mr. James Hamilton) the following day.—[Vol. 773, c. 110.]

Mr. Blaker

Does the right hon. Gentleman recall that he paid a well-deserved tribute to the way in which shipping, insurance and banking had regularly contributed positively to our balance of payments. In recognition of that contribution, would he agree that the time has come to relieve them of Selective Employment Tax?

The Prime Minister

I certainly paid that tribute. Indeed, their contribution to our invisible earnings has increased considerably, particularly in the last year, for reasons which hon. Members will understand, and particularly as a consequence of devaluation. However, I would not have felt that S.E.T. was inhibiting them from making what is now a record contribution——

Mr. C. Pannell

On a point of order. I wish to point out, Mr. Speaker, that the hon. Member for Maidstone (Mr. John Wells) has been standing at the Bar of the House for the last ten minutes munching apples. Now he has entered the Chamber and is making an exhibition of himself. I do not know whether you have noticed this, Mr. Speaker. I would be obliged if you would do something about it.

Mr. Speaker

I will deal with that point of order it the end of Questions.

The Prime Minister

Before that point of order. I was saying that I was not aware that S.E.T. was preventing this record achievement of invisible earnings. It is worth pointing out that, as a proportion of our trade earnings, as a proportion of visible exports, invisibles are now less than they were some years ago.

Mr. Alfred Morris

Further to the point of order raised by my right hon. Friend the Member for Leeds, West (Mr. C. Pannell), may 1 remind you, Mr. Speaker, if you intend to deal with his point of order at the end of Question Time, that the hon. Member for Maidstone (Mr. John Wells) will have finished his apple?

Mr. Speaker

Order. We must get on.

Later——

Mr. Speaker

If I did not deal with the point of order when it was raised by the right hon. Gentleman the Member for Leeds, West (Mr. C. Pannell) it was because Mr. Speaker is probably more aware than any hon. Member how keen hon. Members are to get Questions on the Order Paper, and how anxious they are to get them answered. This is why the Chair is always putting on pressure at Question Time to enable as many hon. Gentlemen as possible, who have taken great pains to work out Questions, to have the opportunity to put them.

On the issue itself, I understand that two centuries ago Parliament was a place where hon. Members brought in oranges, to eat. That custom has disappeared during the years. I do not think that its disappearance has in any way taken from the dignity of the House and, indeed, may have added to it. I have no power to interfere with an hon. Gentleman's masticatory habits, but I would impress on the House that the dignity of the House of Commons, which every hon. Member prizes, is in the hands of every hon. Member. Mr. John Hynd—on a point of order.

Mr. John Hynd rose

——

Mr. Wyatt

On a point of order——

Mr. Hynd

Mr. Speaker——

Mr. Wyatt

On a point of order——

Mr. Speaker

Order. The mere repeating of "On a point of order" does not entitle the hon. Member for Bosworth (Mr. Wyatt) to take precedence over the hon. Gentleman whom I had called. Mr. John Hynd.

Mr. John Hynd

Referring to your Ruling, Mr. Speaker, can you enlighten the House whether it is equally in order for an hon. Member to indulge in liquid refreshment in the Chambers.

Mr. Speaker

This shows the danger of any departure from the decorum of the House, which most hon. Members are anxious to preserve.

Mr. Wyatt

On a point of order, Mr. Speaker. May I remind you that in 1945 or 1946 an hon. Member on this side was eating an orange and was ordered by your predecessor to desist from the practice? Is that not a useful precedent which, with respect, you might consider following today?

Mr. Speaker

It is one that I must certainly look at.

Sir A. V. Harvey

Further to the point of order, Mr. Speaker. You may not remember, but on that occasion it was the present Lord Boothby, then Mr. Boothby, who sat here, and objected to pips going down his neck.

Mr. Speaker

After the interlude, back to the business of the day.