§ 15. Mr. Boyd-Carpenterasked the Minister of Housing and Local Government whether, in view of the progress now made by rent officers in fixing fair rents, he will exercise his powers under the Rent Act, 1965, to bring into regulation under that Act all tenancies at present controlled.
§ Mr. MacCollMy right hon. Friend has no such proposals at present.
§ Mr. Boyd-CarpenterDoes the hon. Gentleman recall that when the present Lord President of the Council took these powers he gave an undertaking that they would be exercised as soon as the initial rush of applications under the Rent Act had been dealt with? In view of the progress that has now been made with these applications, does the Minister's Answer means that the Government intend to welsh on this pledge?
§ Mr. MacCollMy right hon. Friend is keeping an eye on the progress made under the Rent Act. As Answers to previous Questions today have shown, 1400 many more tenants ought to go for protection to the rent officers. We hope that they will.
§ Mr. BlenkinsopWill my hon. Friend note the anxiety of hon. and right hon. Members opposite to increase rents at every possible opportunity?
§ Mr. Graham PageIs it not a fact that many rent officers have not sufficient work to do under the present Act and could easily take on this new duty? Would that not make it possible for many landlords of controlled properties, where rents are too low, to carry out repairs and keep their properties in a proper condition?
§ Mr. MacCollMy right hon. Friend keeps under continuous review the work loads on rent officers and makes necessary adjustments as the need arises.
§ Mr. LubbockWhat is the explanation for the failure of tenants to ask rent officers to assist them in regulating the rents of their properties? Ought not the Government to undertake an investigation of this matter in order to discover why the rate of progress has been so slow?
§ Mr. MacCollMy right hon. Friend is keeping a close eye on the recent statistics and is considering their implications. The main explanation is probably still fear of eviction. In spite of the protection of the Rent Act, too many tenants still think that they will be evicted if they go to their rent officers.
§ 16. Mr. Boyd-Carpenterasked the Minister of Housing and Local Government how many houses and flats respectively are held under controlled tenancies in London and in the rest of the country; and what in each case is the average rent.
§ Mr. MacCollPrecise figures are not available; but I estimate that in Greater London there are about 200,000 controlled tenancies of houses and about 100,000 of flats; in the rest of England and Wales about 1.1 million of houses and about 50,000 of flats. The estimated median annual rent is £66 in Greater London and £38 in the rest of England and Wales.
§ Mr. Boyd-CarpenterIn view of the fact that the hon. Member himself said 1401 a moment ago that he wished more tenants would come forward and use the services of their rent officers, have not rent officers now the ability to deal with cases of this size and number? Is it not now clear that it is political cowardice rather than administrative difficulty which prevents his right hon. Friend taking the action which the Lord President of the Council pledged himself to take?
§ Mr. MacCollIn Greater London—to which area the right hon. Gentleman referred—in many places there is still a heavy backlog of cases.
§ Mr. Hugh JenkinsDoes not my hon. Friend agree that the reason why tenants will not go to their rent officers is that in their experience, in the majority of cases—certainly in my constituency—the consequence is to put the rents up?
§ Mr. SpeakerOrder. That supplementary is really on a previous question.
§ Mr. RipponDoes the pledge still stand? If so, when does the hon. Member hope to implement it?
§ Mr. MacCollAll the pledges of the Labour Party stand.
§ 24. Mr. John Hallasked the Minister of Housing and Local Government if he is aware that the level of rents which can be charged for properties coming within the scope of the Rent Acts makes it impossible in many cases for property owners to keep their properties in reasonable repair; and what action he is proposing to take to prevent such properties degenerating into slums.
§ Mr. MacCollMy right hon. Friend is aware of the many problems surrounding the condition of the older parts of the housing stock. I would also refer the hon. Gentleman to the reply to a question by my hon. Friend the Member for Rushcliffe (Mr. Gardner) on 13th June.
§ Mr. HallDoes the hon. Gentleman agree that that Answer gets us nowhere? Would he listen much more sympathetically to the plea that controlled rents should now be brought within the scope of the 1965 Act, so that fair rents can be fixed and properties can be kept in order?
§ Mr. MacCollI have already dealt with the questions of controlled rents. 1402 Raising rent does not, by itself, get property into repair.
§ Mr. John FraserWill my hon. Friend recognise that many statutory tenants in London are prepared to arrest the degeneration of their houses by buying them and doing the necessary improvements, and the fact that the money lent by local authorities is only half what it was two years ago is preventing tenants being able to do this?
§ Mr. MacCollMy right hon. Friend is answering a Question on the second part of that supplementary question later.