HC Deb 06 February 1967 vol 740 cc1307-11

Order read for resuming deferred Proceeding on Question: That leave be given to bring in a bill to register certain sections of the travel trade and to introduce a code of conduct for the travel trade.—[Mr. Milne.]

Sir Douglas Glover (Ormskirk)

On a point of order. Before we carry out this novel proceeding—it is the first time under our Special Orders that a Private Member's Bill has been voted on at this time of night, provided that the House disagrees about it—I submit that on a Friday, under our previous procedure, when a Bill was debated, if, because it was talked out or for some other reason it was not drawn to a conclusion, that was the end of the Bill.

Here, under our new procedure, we had a Bill on Wednesday which was opposed by hon. Members, and it was therefore decided to bring it to a conclusion at a Division at the end of business. The business that the House was considering on that day was the Consolidated Fund Bill. At 3 o'clock in the morning my hon. Friend the Member for Rutland and Stamford (Mr. Kenneth Lewis)—

Mr. Speaker

Order. I dealt with this point some time last week. I hope that the hon. Gentleman will not repeat it.

Sir D. Glover

With the greatest respect, Mr. Speaker, we were all talking off the cuff last week. Here we are dealing with a new matter in our Sessional Orders procedure. We are reimposing on the Order Paper a Bill which, in my submission, died at 3.10 a.m. on Wednesday last, because it is clearly laid down in Sessional Orders that this sort of Bill will be decided, in future, at the end of the business for that day. This is no reflection on you, Mr Speaker; it is a reflection on the Leader of the House that our Sessional Orders make no provision for the fact that if, at the end of the business for that day, the House is counted out, it is impossible to take the Division on opposed business.

It is my humble submission that that means that the Private Member's Bill died—

Mr. Speaker

I have heard the hon. Member enough on that point of order. I ruled on this last week. Under the Sessional Order it is my duty to put the Question forthwith.

Division No. 265.] AYES [1.10 a.m.
Abse, Leo Gourlay, Harry Noel-Baker, Francis (Swindon)
Allaun, Frank (Salford, E.) Gregory, Arnold Noel-Baker,Rt.Hn.Philip(Derby,S.)
Alldritt, Walter Grey, Charles (Durham) Oakes, Cordon
Allen, Scholefield Griffiths, David (Rother Valley) Ogden, Eric
Archer, Peter Griffiths, Will (Exchange) O'Malley, Brian
Armstrong, Ernest Harper, Joseph Orbach, Maurice
Atkins, Ronald (Preston, N.) Harrison, Walter (Wakefield) Orme, Stanley
Atkinson, Norman (Tottenham) Hart, Mrs. Judith Oswald, Thomas
Bagier, Gordon A. T. Haseldine, Norman Parkyn, Brian (Bedford)
Bence, Cyril Heffer, Eric S. Pavitt, Laurence
Benn, Rt. Hn. Anthony Wedgwood Hobden, Dennis (Brighton, K'town) Pearson, Arthur (Pontypridd)
Bidwell, Sydney Hooley, Frank Perry, George H. (Nottingham, S.)
Binns, John Horner, John Price, Thomas (Westhoughton)
Bishop, E. S. Howie, W. Redhead, Edward
Blackburn, F. Hoy, James Rees, Merlyn
Blenkinsop, Arthur Hughes, Roy (Newport) Reynolds, G. W.
Boardman, H. Hunter, Adam Rhodes, Geoffrey
Booth, Albert Hynd, John Richard, Ivor
Bowden, Rt. Hn. Herbert Jackson, Colin (B'h'se & Spenb'gh) Roberts, Albert (Normanton)
Braddock, Mrs. E. M. Jackson, Peter M. (High Peak) Roberts, Gwilym (Bedfordshire, S.)
Bradley, Tom Janner, Sir Barnett Robinson, W. O. J. (Walth'stow, E.)
Bray, Dr. Jeremy Johnson, James (K'ston-on-Hull, W.) Rodgers, William (Stockton)
Broughton, Dr. A. D. D. Jones, Dan (Burnley) Roebuck, Roy
Brown, Hugh D. (G'gow, Provan) Jones.Rt.Hn.Sir Elwyn(W.Ham,S.) Ross, Rt. Hn. William
Brown,Bob(N'c'tle-upon-Tyne,W) Judd, Frank Rowland, Christopher (Meriden)
Brown, R. W. (Shoreditch & F'bury) Kelley, Richard Shaw, Arnold (Ilford, S.)
Buchanan, Richard (G'gow, Sp'burn) Kerr, Russell (Feltham) Short,Rt.Hn.Edward(N'c'tle-u-Tyne)
Callaghan, Rt. Hn. James Lawson, George Silkin, Rt. Hn. John (Deptford)
Crossman, Rt. Hn. Richard Leadbitter, Ted Silverman, Julius (Aston)
Dalyell, Tam Ledger, Ron Silverman, Sydney (Nelson)
Davidson, Arthur (Accrington) Lestor, Miss Joan Small, William
Davidson, James(Aberdeenshire, W.) Lewis Ron (Carilsle) Snow, Julian
Davies, Dr. Ernest (Stretford) Loughlin, Charles Spriggs, Leslie
Delargy, Hugh Lyon, Alexander W. (York) Steel, David (Roxburgh)
Dempsey, James Lyons, Edward (Bradford, E.) Steele,Thomas (Dunbartonshire,W.)
Dewar Donald Mabon, Dr. J. Dickson Summerskill, Hn. Dr. Shirley
Dickens, James McBride, Neil Swingler, Stephen
Dobson, Ray McCann, John Thomas, George (Cardiff, W.)
Doig, Peter MacColl, James Thornton, Ernest
Driberg, Tom Macdonald, A. H. Urwin, T. W.
Dunn, James A. McGuire, Michael Wainwright, Edwin (Dearne Valley)
Dunwoody, Mrs. Gwyneth (Exeter) Mackenzie, Gregor (Rutherglen) Walker, Harold (Doncaster)
Dunwoody, Dr. John (F'th & C'b'e) Maclennan, Robert Wallace, George
Eadie, Alex McMillan, Tom (Glasgow, C.) watkins, David (Consett)
Ellis, John Watkins, Tudor (Brecon & Radnor)
English, Michael Mahon, Peter (Preston, S.) wellbeloved, James
Ennals, David Mallalieu, E. L. (Brigg) Wells, William (Walsall, N.)
Evans, loan L. (Birm'h'm, Yardley) Mapp, Charles Whitaker, Ben
Faulds, Andrew Mellish, Robert Whitlock, William
Fernyhough, E. Mendelson, J. J. Wilkins, W. A.
Finch, Harold Mikardo, Ian Williams, Alan Lee (Hornchurch)
Fitt, Gerard (Belfast, W.) Millan, Bruce Willis, George (Edinburgh, E.)
Fletcher, Ted (Darlington) Milne, Edward (Blyth) Wilson, William (Coventry, S.)
Foot, Sir Dingle (Ipswich) Mitchell, R. C. (S'th'pton, Test) Woodburn, Rt. Hn. A.
Foot, Michael (Ebbw Vale) Morgan, Elystan (Cardiganshire) Woof, Robert
Ford, Ben Morris, Alfred (Wythenthawe)
Fowler, Gerry Morris, Charles R. (Openshaw) TELLERS FOR THE AYES:
Fraser, John (Norwood) Mulley, Rt. Hn. Frederick Mr. Neil Carmichael and Mr. James Hamilton.
Galpern, Sir Myer Murray, Albert
Garrett, W. E. Newens, Stan
NOES
Allason, James (Hemel Hempstead) Burden, F. A. Elliott, R.W.(N'c'tle-upon-Tyne,N.)
Astor, John Chichester-Clark, R, Eyre, Reginald
Atkins, Humphrey (M't'n & M'd'n) Clark, Henry Farr, John
Batsford, Brian Clegg, Walter Fletcher-Cooke, Charles
Bell, Ronald Corfield, F. V. Fortescue, Tim
Bennett, Sir Frederic (Torquay) Crowder, F. P. Foster, Sir John
Biggs-Davison, John Cunningham, Sir Knox Giles, Rear-Adm. Morgan
Black, Sir Cyril Currie, G. B. H. Glover, Sir Douglas
Bossom, Sir Clive Dalkeith, Earl of Goodhart, Philip
Boyd-Carpenter, Rt. Hn. John Dance, James Goodhew, Victor
Brinton, Sir Tatton d'Avigdor-Goldsmid, Sir Henry Grant, Anthony
Bromley-Davenport,Lt. -Col. Sir Walter Deedes, Rt. Hn. W. F. (Ashford) Grant-Ferris, R.
Brown, Sir Edward (Bath) Dodds-Parker, Douglas Gurden, Harold
Bruce-Gardyne, J. Drayson, G. B. Hamilton, Michael (Salisbury)
Buck, Antony (Colchester) Eden, Sir John Harris, Reader (Heston)
Harrison, Col. Sir Harwood (Eye) Mitchell, David (Basingstoke) Renton, Rt. Hn. Sir David
Harvie Anderson, Miss Monro, Hector Rippon, Rt. Hn. Geoffrey
Hiley, Joseph More, Jasper Russell, Sir Ronald
Hill, J. E. B. Munro-Lucas-Tooth, Sir Hugh Stodart, Anthony
Hirst, Geoffrey Murton, Oscar Taylor, Sir Charles (Eastbourne)
Hobson, Rt. Hn. Sir John Nabarro, Sir Gerald Temple, John M.
Irvine, Bryant Godman (Rye) Neave, Airey Turton, Rt. Hn. R. H.
Kaberry, Sir Donald Noble, Rt. Hn. Michael vaughan-Morgan, Rt. Hn. Sir John
King, Evelyn (Dorset, S.) Orr, Capt. L. P. S. Vickers, Dame Joan
Kitson, Timothy Page, Graham (Crosby) Weatherill, Bernard
Knight, Mrs. Jill Page, John (Harrow, W.) Webster, David
Lancaster, Col. C. G. Pearson, Sir Frank (Clitheroe) Whitelaw, Rt. Hn. William
Legge-Bourke, Sir Harry Peel, John Wilson, Geoffrey (Truro)
Lloyd, Ian (P'tsm'th, Langstone) Pike, Miss Mervyn Worsley, Marcus
Longden, Gilbert Pink, R. Bonner Wylie, N. R.
Maude, Angus Pounder, Rafton Younger, Hn. George
Mawby, Ray Prior, J. M. L. TELLERS FOR THE NOES:
Maydon, Lt.-Cmdr. S. L. C. Pym, Francis Mr. John Wells and Mr. Kenneth Lewis.
Mills, Peter (Torrington) Rawlinson, Rt. Hn. Sir Peter

Bill ordered to be brought in by Mr. Milne, Mr. Hugh D. Brown, Mr. Edelman, Mr. Robert Edwards, Mr. Ted Fletcher, Mr. Will Griffiths, Mr. Hale, Mr. Horner, Mr. Will Owen and Mr. David Watkins.