HC Deb 06 December 1967 vol 755 c1443
36. Mr. Hugh D. Brown

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is the authorised establishment of the police force and the actual number in post; and what percentage of the difference relates to Glasgow.

Mr. Buchan

On 31st October, 1967, the authorised establishment of all Scottish forces was 11,203 and the strength 10,219; 48 per cent. of the difference between the two figures related to Glasgow.

Mr. Brown

It is impossible for me to work that out as quickly as I should like, but I understand that under-manning in Glasgow is over 400. Would my hon. Friend accept that we are delighted that the Under-Secretary of State is to make a personal visit to Glasgow to examine some of the problems which have been raised recently? Would he consider seriously the possibility of an under-manning allowance for Glasgow police in view of the excessive overtime being worked, which is bad for morale?

Mr. Buchan

I am sorry if the form of my hon. Friend's Question led us to give a difficult mathematical answer. There is a shortage of 473 men. On the second point, it is a bit difficult to judge the effect of some of the steps which have been taken recently, such as the alteration in physical requirements. The deficiency allowance is payable only if there is a 25 per cent. undermanning. We are not near that position yet. However, I have no doubt that this will be among the subjects which will be discussed in what now appears to be a famous meeting which will take place this coming Friday.

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