§ 24. Mr. St. John-Stevasasked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will make a statement of Government policy on mortgage interest rates chargeable by building societies.
§ 59. Mr. Winnickasked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what action he intends to take on the National Board for Prices and Incomes Report on the Building Societies.
§ Mr. CallaghanI conveyed to the Building Societies Association on 14th November the Government's view that, in present circumstances, the 6¾ per cent. mortgage rate should be maintained, and I am proposing to them a study of the real requirements of reserves and liquidity.
§ Mr. St. John-StevasBut is not that quite unrealistic advice to offer the build- 200 ing societies, in view of the high level of interest rates created by the Government? Would not the best contribution which the Chancellor can make in the present situation be to honour his election pledge and revive the mortgage option scheme, which seems to have gone into permanent deep freeze?
§ Mr. CallaghanThe hon. Gentleman will be glad to hear that the mortgage option scheme legislation will be appearing before very long. On the first part of his question, interest rates are, of course, not a purely domestic matter; they have international repercussions. I am not able to say at the moment in what way world interest rates will be moving, but there is a general expectation, I think, that, over the next few months, they are more likely in the world as a whole to turn downwards than to move upwards.
§ Mr. WinnickIs my right hon. Friend aware that owner-occupiers consider that there would be no justification for any increase in the mortgage interest rate? Would he not agree that the report shows that the reserves of the societies are large enough for no increase to be necessary for some considerable time?
§ Mr. CallaghanThe last part of that question refers to exactly what I should like to study with the building societies. This proposition was put to them many months ago. As a result of the discussion, I then referred it to the Prices and Incomes Board and so far, I think, the Board has accepted and reinforced my view that there is a real and serious subject for discussion here about what the proper level of reserves should be.
§ Mr. LubbockIs the right hon. Gentleman aware that, although the Building Societies Association may be considering the matter further in the light of the Report of the Prices and Incomes Board, some members of the Association are disregarding his advice and that the Lambeth Building Society, for example, has increased its rates to 74¾ per cent.?
§ Mr. CallaghanThere has never been, especially among some building societies, agreement to maintain a fixed rate, but the recommended rate is what we are talking about here. It is that rate on which I have commented.