HC Deb 26 May 1965 vol 713 cc567-79

Question proposed, That this Schedule be the Schedule to the Bill.

Sir Rolf Dudley Williams

On a point of order, Dr. King. Are we not to talk about Clause 2?

The Chairman

Clause 2 was taken earlier, apparently, in the absence of the hon. Gentleman.

Sir Rolf Dudley Williams

I am sorry Dr. King. I am so tired.

Mr. Percival

I should like to raise a point of principle on this Schedule while keeping in order and I invite your assistance, Dr. King, on this aspect of the matter—[Interruption.]

The Chairman

Order. Will hon. Members leave the Chamber quietly.

Mr. Percival

As I took my ticket at the Underground station to come here this morning the gentleman in the queue behind me asked for two tickets for the Tower. I am bound to say that I felt

Division No. 135.] AYES [12.37 p.m.
Allaun, Frank (Salford, E.) Benn, Rt. Hn. Anthony Wedgwood Carlisle, Mark
Allen, Scholefield (Crewe) Berkeley, Humphry Carmichael, Neil
Armstrong, Ernest Biffen, John Castle, Rt. Hn. Barbara
Atkinson, Norman Blenkinsop, Arthur Craddock, George (Bradford, S.)
Bacon, Miss Alice Bowden, Rt. Hn. H. W. (Lei[...]cs S.W.) Cullen, Mrs. Alice
Barnett, Joel Bray, Dr. Jeremy Darling, George
Bence, Cyril Brown, R. W. (Sho[...]reditch & Fbury) Davies, Harold (Leek)

inclined to change places with him even though he was going towards the dungeons. The reason for that feeling was the realisation that, after a mere four hours of sleep, I must now endeavour to make a contribution on the technical subject of this Schedule. Having been fortunate in catching your eye, Dr. King, I must now endeavour to keep in order to ensure that I do not end up in the Tower.

It has been said that even Schedules have principles and it is to the principle of this Bill that I wish to invite attention. I ask that someone should look at the Schedule again to make sure that the contents, the enactments repealed, are right. I invite someone—I do not know to whom to address my question, whether it should be to the Home Office or not—to look at the Schedule again between now and the Report stage to make sure that what is set out in it is necessary and accurate.

Question put, That this Schedule be the Schedule to the Bill:—

The Committee divided: Ayes 128, Noes 117.

Davies, Ifor (Gower) Irving, Sydney (Dartford) Rankin, John
de Frei[...]tas, Sir Geoffrey Jackson, Colin Redhead, Edward
Dodds, Norman Jay, Rt. Hn. Douglas Reynolds, G. W.
Driberg, Tom Jenkins, Rt. Hn. Roy (Stechford) Rogers, George (Kensington, N.)
Duffy, Dr. A. E. P. Johnson Smlth, G. (East Grinstead) St. John-Stevas, Norman
Dunn, James A. Johnston, Russell (Inverness) Shinwell, Rt. Hn. E.
Edwards, Robert (Bilston) Jones,Rt.Hn.Sir Elwyn(W.Ham,S.) Shore, Peter (Stepney)
Evans, Albert (Islington, S.W.) Jones, J. Idwal (Wrexham) Short,Rt.Hn.E.(N'c'tle-on-Tyne,C.)
Fletcher, Ted (Darlington) Jones, T. W. (Merloneth) Silkin, John (Deptford)
Floud, Bernard Kirk, Peter Silkin, S. C. (Camberwell, Dulwich)
Foot, Sir Dingle (Ipswich) Lawson, George Skeffington, Arthur
Foot, Michael (Ebbw Vale) Lewis, Ron (Carlisle) Slater, Mrs. Harriet (Stoke, N.)
Foster, Sir John Lipton, Marcus Small, William
Freeson, Reginald Lubbock, Eric Steel, David (Roxburgh)
Galpern, Sir Myer Mabon, Dr. J. Dickson Stones, William
Garrow, A. McBridge, Neil Swain, Thomas
Gourlay, Harry Mackenzie, Gregor (Rutherglen) Swingler, Stephen
Gregory, Arnold Mackie, John (Enfield, E.) Taverne, Dick
Griffiths, David (Rother Valley) MacMillan, Malcolm Taylor, Bernard (Mansfield)
Grimond, Rt. Hn. J. Mahon, Simon (Bootle) Thomas, George (Cardl[...]ff, W.)
Hamilton, William (West Fife) Manuel, Archie Thomas, l[...]orwerth (Rhondda, W.)
Hamling, William (Woolwich, W.) Mapp, Charles Thornton, Ernest
Hannan, William Mikardo, lan Tinn, James
Harper, Joseph Milne, Edward (Blyth) Urwin, T. W.
Hart, Mrs. Judith Miscampbell, Norman White, Mrs. Eirene
Hazell, Bert Monslow, Walter Whitlock, William
Heffer, Eric S. Mulley, Rt.Hn. Frederick(SheffieldPk) Willey, Rt. Hn. Frederick
Henderson, Rt. Hn. Arthur O'Malley, Brian Williams, Albert (Abertillery)
Herbison, Rt. Hn. Margaret Oswald, Thomas Williams, Mrs. Shirley (Hitchin)
Hobden, Dennis (Brighton, K'town.) Owen, Will Willis, George (Edinburgh, E.)
Houghton, Rt. Hn. Douglas Pargiter, G. A. Wilson, William (Coventry, S.)
Hoy, James Parkin, B. T. Woodburn, Rt. Hn. A.
Hughes, Emrys (S. Ayrshire) Peart, Rt. Hn. Fred Zilliacus, K.
Hunter, Adam (Dunfermline) Pentland, Norman
Hynd, H. (Accrington) Popplewell, Ernest TELLERS FOR THE AYES:
Hynd, John (Attercliffe) Pursey, Cmdr. Harry Mr. Richard Crawshaw and
Irvine, A. J. (Edge Hill) Randall, Harry Mr. Stanley Orme.
NOES
Anstruther-Gray, Rt. Hn. Sir W. Goodhew, Victor Nicholls, Sir Harmar
Batsford, Brian Gower, Raymond Noble, Rt. Hn. Michael
Bennett, Sir Frederic (Torquay) Grant, Anthony Orr-Ewing, Sir lan
Bennett, Dr. Reginald (Gos & Fhm) Griffiths, Eldon (Bury St. Edmunds) Osborn, John (Hallam)
Berry, Hn. Anthony Hamilton, Marquess of (Fermanagh) Pickthorn, Rt. Hn. Sir Kenneth
Bessell, Peter Harris, Frederic (Croydon, N.W.) Pitt, Dame Edith
Blaker, Peter Harris, Reader (Heston) Pym, Francis
Bossom, Hn. Clive Harvey, Sir Arthur Vere (Macclesf 'd) Redmayne, Rt. Hn. Sir Martin
Boyd-Carpenter, Rt. Hn. J. Harvey, John (Walthamstow, E.) Robson Brown, Sir William
Braine, Bernard Harvie Anderson, Miss Scott-Hopkine, James
Brinton, Sir Tatton Hawkins, Paul Sharples, Richard
Bromley-Davenport.Lt.-Col.SirWalter Hay, John Sinclair, Sir George
Brown, Sir Edward (Bath) Heath, Rt. Hn. Edward Smith, Dudley (Br'ntf'd & Ch[...]iswick)
Bryan, Paul Hendry, Forbes Smyth, Rt. Hn. Brig. Sir John
Buck, Antony Hiley, Joseph Stodart, Anthony
Buxton, Ronald Hill, J. E. B. (S. Norfolk) Stoddart-Scott, Col. Sir Malcolm
Chichester-Clark, R. Hirst, Geoffrey Studholme, Sir Henry
Clark, William (Nottingham, S.) Hopkins, Alan Summers, Sir Spencer
Clarke, Brig. Terence (Portamth, W.) Irvine, Bryant Godman (Rye) Taylor, Sir Charles (Eastbourne)
Cooke, Robert Jennings, J. C. Taylor, Edward M. (G'gow, Cathcart)
Cooper, A. E. Kaberry, Sir Donald Taylor, Frank (Moss Side)
Costain, A. P. Kershaw, Anthony Temple, John M.
Courtney, Cdr. Anthony Kilfedder, James A. Thompson, Sir Richard (Croydon, S.)
Cunningham, Sir Knox Kimball, Marcus Thorneycroft, Rt. Hn. Peter
Curran, Charles Lagden, Godfrey Turton, Rt. Hn. R, H.
Dance, James Lancaster, Col. C. G. Tweedsmuir[...], Lady
Davies, Dr. Wyndham (Perry Barr) Legge-Bourke, Sir Harry Vaughan-Morgan, Rt. Hn. Sir John
Dean, Paul Longden, Gilbert Walker, Peter (Worcester)
Deedes, Rt. Hn. W. F. Lucas, Sir Jocelyn Ward, Dame Irene
Dlgby, Simon Wingfield McAdden, Sir Stephen Weatherill, Bernard
Dodds-Parker, Douglas MacArthur, Ian Webster, David
Elliot, Capt. Walter (Carshalton) Mackenzie, Alasdair (Ross&Crom'ty) Whitelaw, William
Elliott, R. W.(N'c'tle-upon-Tyne,N.) McNair-Wilson, Patrick Wills, Sir Gerald (Bridgwater)
Farr, John Maginn[...]ls, John E. Wllson, Geoffrey (Truro)
Fell, Anthony Marten, Neil Wolrige-Gordon, Patrick
Fraser, Ian (Plymouth, Sutton) Maude, Angus Wood, Rt. Hn. Richard
Gibson-Watt, David Maydon, Lt.-Cmdr. S. L. C. Younger, Hn. George
Gilmour, Sir John (East Fife) Mitchell, David
Glover, Sir Douglas Monro, Hector TELLERS FOR THE NOES:
Godber, Rt. Hn. J. B. Mott-Radclyffe, Sir Charles Mr. Ian Percival and
Sir Rolf Dudley Williams.

Schedule agreed to.

The Chairman

The Question is, That do report the Bill, as amended—

Sir Harmar Nicholls (Peterborough)

On a point of order, Dr. King. Is it possible to save you the distasteful task of reporting the Bill to the House? Is it possible for the Committee to say that you should not report it? If that is possible, I should like to say, "No" to your Question.

The Chairman

The hon. Member for Peterborough (Sir Harmar Nicholls) was interrupting me in the process of putting the Question—

Sir K. Pickthorn

On a point of order. I do not know whether you are in a deprecatory mood this morning, Dr. King, but I believe that it is not out of order to discuss this Question, although I believe that the Chair sometimes deprecates such discussion. I should dislike to be deprecated by the Chair, but—

The Chairman

I will interrupt the right hon. Member for Carlton (Sir K. Pickthorn) to assure him that the Chair is in a very deprecatory mood. The right hon. Gentleman was putting an observation to the Chair; I am answering it at the moment. The position is that the right hon. Gentleman is quite right. It is possible to debate this Question, but if he turns up Erskine May he will find that it rules that this Motion is now taken formally and that the Chair is in the habit of deprecating any debate on it. As I said, I therefore deprecate any attempt to debate it.

Sir K. Pickthorn

With respect, I do not believe that you have the words quite exact, Dr. King, but I do not rest myself on that. Of course, you are correct in effect, but I want to submit to you that surely what we are now doing is something which has never been done before. The House has never reported a Bill in the condition in which this Bill is and after the procedure which this Bill has been through. It has never happened before—a Bill that is neither Private Member's nor Government's, but both; no responsible sponsor present nor a Minister present on a Bill which had ceased to be a Bill but had been made into a nonsense.

This is the first time that there has been a Private Member's Bill debated and the Committee stage taken at a time when it is known that Government supporters will all be present, Whips on. [HON. MEMBERS: "No."] I will listen to the word "No" and I hope to have nothing else to listen to from any hon. Gentleman who voted as against the desire of those who manage his party.

12.45 p.m.

Mr. Thomas Swain (Derbyshire, North-East)

If my memory serves me right, the Government won the election with a majority of four out of 640 hon. Members. Only 128 went through the Lobby of the Government supporters this morning. How can the right hon. Gentleman claim that all the Government supporters are here on a Wednesday morning?

Sir K. Pickthorn

I deprecate that argument. I do not want to say any more—

Mr. Eric Lubbock (Orpington)

On a point of order. Is the right hon. Member for Carlton (Sir K. Pickthorn) speaking to the Question that you report the Bill, or is he still on the point of order?

The Chairman

The hon. Member for Orpington (Mr. Lubbock) asked me what the position was. I was putting the Question, That I do report the Bill, as amended, to the House. I pointed out that I deprecate any discussion on this. In spite of that, the right hon. Member for Carlton is discussing it. This is the factual position.

Sir K. Pickthorn

I have on all earlier occasions—

Dr. Jeremy Bray (Middlesbrough, West)

On a point of order, Dr. King. Did you, in fact, complete the process of putting the Question to the Committee, or were you interrupted in the course of so doing?

The Chairman

My recollection is clear that I was putting the Question to the Committee and that the hon. Member for Carlton (Sir K. Pickthorn) is in the process of doing something which the Chair deprecates.

Sir K. Pickthorn

I am very sorry to do something which the Chair deprecates. I have always avoided doing so before. This is an unique occasion. I wish to make quite clear that never before has a Committee reported progress on a Bill in the conditions and after the procedure which we have now arrived at.

The Chairman

The Question is, That I do report the Bill—

Sir Rolf Dudley Williams

I am sorry—

The Parliamentary Secretary to the Treasury (Mr. Edward Short) rose in his

Division No. 136.] AYES [12.51 p.m.
Albu Austen Hamling, William (Woolwich, W.) O'Malley, Brian
Alison, Michael (Barkston Ash) Hannan, William Oswald, Thomas
Allaun, Frank (Salford, E.) Harper, Joseph Owen, Will
Allen, Scholefield (Crewe) Hart, Mrs. Judith Pargiter, G. A.
Armstrong, Ernest Hazell, Bert Parkin, B. T.
Atkinson, Norman Heffer, Eric S. Peart, Rt. Hn. Fred
Bacon, Miss Alice Henderson, Rt. Hn. Arthur Pentland, Norman
Barnett, Joel Herbison, Rt. Hn. Margaret Popplewell, Ernest
Bence, Cyril Hobden, Dennis (Brighton, K'town.) Probert, Arthur
Benn, Rt. Hn. Anthony Wedgwood Houghton, Rt. Hn. Douglas Pursey, Cmdr. Harry
Berkeley, Humphry Hoy, James Randall, Harry
Blenkinsop, Arthur Hughes, Emrys (S. Ayrshire) Rankin, John
Bowden, Rt. Hn. H. W. (Leics S.W.) Hunter, Adam (Dunfermline) Reynolds, G. W.
Bray, Dr. Jeremy Hynd, H. (Accrington) Rogers, George (Kensington, N.)
Brown, R. W. (Shoreditch & Fbury) Hynd, John (Attercliffe) St. John-Stevas, Norman
Carlisle, Mark Irvine, A. J. (Edge Hill) Shinwell, Rt. Hn. E.
Carmichael, Neil Irving, Sydney (Dartford) Shore, Peter (Stepney)
Castle, Rt. Hn. Barbara Jackson, Colin Short,Rt.Hn.E.(N'c'tle-on-Tyne,C.)
Craddock, George (Bradford, S.) Jay, Rt. Hn. Douglas Silkin, John (Deptford)
Cullen, Mrs. Alice Jenkins, Rt. Hn. Roy (Stechford) Silkin, S. C. (Camberwell, Dulwich)
Darling, George Johnston, Russell (Inverness) Skeffington, Arthur
Davies, Harold (Leek) Jones,Rt.Hn.Sir Elwyn(W.Ham,S.) Slater, Mrs. Harriet (Stoke, N.)
Davies, Ifor (Gower) Jones, J. Idwal (Wrexham) Steel, David (Roxburgh)
de Freitas, Sir Geoffrey Jopling, Michael Swain, Thomas
Diamond, John Kenyon, Clifford Swingler, Stephen
Dodds, Norman Kirk, Peter Taverne, Dick
Driberg, Tom Lawson, George Taylor, Bernard (Mansfield)
Duffy, Dr. A. E. P. Lewis, Ron (Carlisle) Thomas, George (Cardiff, W.)
Dunn, James A. Lipton, Marcus Thornton, Ernest
Edwards, Robert (Bilston) Lubbock, Eric Tinn, James
Evans, Albert (Islington, S.W.) Mabon, Dr. J. Dickson Urwin, T. W.
Fletcher, Ted (Darlington) McBride, Neil White, Mrs. Eirene
Floud, Bernard Mackenzie, Gregor (Rutherglen) Whitlock, William
Foot, Sir Dingle (Ipswich) Mackie, John (Enfield, E.) Willey, Rt. Hn. Frederick
Foot, Michael (Ebbw Vale) MacMillan, Malcolm Williams, Albert (Abertillery)
Freeson, Reginald Mahon, Simon (Bootle) Williams, Mrs. Shirley (H[...]tchin)
Galpern, Sir Myer Mapp, Charles Willis, George (Edinburgh, E.)
Garrow, A. Milne, Edward (Blyth) Wilson, William (Coventry, S.)
Gourlay, Harry Miscampbell, Norman Woodburn, Rt. Hn. A.
Gregory, Arnold Molloy, William Zilliacus, K,
Grimond, Rt. Hn. J. Monslow, Walter
Hamilton, William (West Fife) Mulley,Rt.Hn.Frederick(SheffieldPk) TELLERS FOR THE AYES.
Mr. Richard Crawshaw and
Mr. Stanley Orme.
NOES
Allan, Robert (Paddington, S.) Corfield, F. V. Harvie Anderson, Miss
Anstruther-Gray, Rt. Hn. Sir W. Costain, A. P. Hawkins, Paul
Barlow, Sir John Courtney, Cdr. Anthony Hay, John
Bennett, Sir Frederic (Torquay) Cunningham, Sir Knox Hendry, Forbes
Bennett, Dr. Reginald (Gos & Fhm) Curran, Charles Hiley, Joseph
Berry, Hn. Anthony Davies, Dr. Wyndham (Perry Barr) Hill, J. E. B. (S. Norfolk)
Bessell, Peter Dean, Paul Hordern, Peter
Biggs-Davison, John Digby, Simon Wingfield Hutchison, Michael Clark
Blaker, Peter Elliot, Capt. Walter (Carshalton) Jennings, J. C.
Bossom, Hn. Clive Farr, John Kaberry, Sir Donald
Boyd-Carpenter, Rt. Hn. J. Fell, Anthony Kershaw, Anthony
Braine, Bernard Foster, Sir John Kilfedder, James A.
Brlnton, Sir Tatton Gibson-Watt, David Kimball, Marcus
Bromley-Davenport, Lt.-Col.Sir Walter Gilmour, Sir John (East Fife) Lagden, Godfrey
Brooke, Rt. Hn. Henry Glover, Sir Douglas Legge-Bourke, Sir Harry
Brown, Sir Edward (Bath) Godber, Rt. Hn. J. B. Longden, Gilbert
Bruce-Gardyne, J. Goodhew, Victor Loveys, Walter H.
Bryan, Paul Gower, Raymond McAdden, Sir Stephen
Buck, Antony Griffiths, Eldon (Bury St. Edmunds) Mackenzie, Alasdair (Ross&Crom'ty)
Chichester-Clark, R. Hall, John (Wycombe) McLaren, Martin
Clark, William (Nottingham, S.) Harris, Frederic (Croydon, N.W.) McNair-Wilson, Patrick
Clarke, Brig. Terence (Portsmth, W.) Harris, Reader (Heston) Maginnis, John E.
Cooke, Robert Harrison, Brian (Maldon) Marten, Neil
Cooper. A. E. Harvey, Sir Arthur Vere (Macclesf'd) Maude, Angus

place and claimed to move, That the Question be now put.

Question put, That the Question be now put:—

The Committee divided: Ayes 124, Noes 107.

Maydon, Lt.-Cmdr. S. L. C. Stoddart-Scott, Col. Sir Malcolm Walder, David (High Peak)
Mitchell, David Studholme, Sir Spencer Ward, Dame Irene
Monro, Hector Summers, Sir Spencer Weatherill, Bernard
Nicholls, Sir Harmar Taylor, Sir Charles (Eastbourne) Webster, David
Noble, Rt. Hn. Michael Taylor, Edward M. (G'gow,Cathcart) Wills, Sir Gerald (Bridgwater)
Nugent, Rt. Hn. Sir Richard Temple, John M. Wilson, Geoffrey (Truro)
Orr-Ewing, Sir Ian Thatcher, Mrs. Margaret Wolrige-Gordon, Patrick
Osborn, John (Hallam) Thompson, Sir Richard (Croydon,S.) Woodhouse, Hon. Christopher
Pickthorn, Rt. Hn. Sir Kenneth Thorneycroft, Rt. Hn. Peter Yates, William (The Wrekin)
Pitt, Dame Edith Tiley, Arthur (Bradford, W.)
Scott-Hopkins, James Tilney, John (Wavertree) TELLERS FOR THE NOES:
Smyth, Rt. Hn. Brig. Sir John Tweedsmuir, Lady Mr. Ian Percival and
Stodart, Anthony van Straubenzee, W. R. Sir Rolf Dudley Williams.

Question put accordingly, That the Chairman do report the Bill, as amended, to the House:—

Division No. 137.] AYES [12.59 p.m.
Albu, Austen Hamling, William (Woolwich, W.) Oswald, Thomas
Alison, Michael (Barkston Ash) Hannan, William Owen, Will
Allaun, Frank (Salford, E.) Harper, Joseph Pargiter, G. A.
Allen, Scholefield (Crewe) Hart, Mrs. Judith Parkin, B. T.
Armstrong, Ernest Hazell, Bert Peart, Rt. Hn. Fred
Atkinson, Norman Heffer, Eric S. Pentland, Norman
Bacon, Miss Alice Henderson, Rt. Hn. Arthur Popplewell, Ernest
Barnett, Joel Herbison, Rt. Hn. Margaret Probert, Arthur
Benee, Cyril Hobden, Dennis (Brighton, K'town.) Pursey, Cmdr. Harry
Benn, Rt. Hn. Anthony Wedgwood Houghton, Rt. Hn. Douglas Randall, Harry
Berkeley, Humphry Hoy, James Rankin, John
Biffen, John Hughes, Emrys (S. Ayrshire) Reynolds, G. W.
Binns, John Hunter, Adam (Dunfermline) Rogers, George (Kensington, N.)
Blenkl[...]nsop, Arthur Hynd, H. (Accrington) St. John-Stevas, Norman
Bowden, Rt. Hn. H. W. (Lelcs S.W.) Hynd, John (Attercliffe) Shinwell, Rt. Hn. E.
Bray, Dr. Jeremy Irvine, A. J. (Edge Hill) Shore, Peter (Stepney)
Brown, R. W. (Shoreditch & Fbury) Irving, Sydney (Dartford) Short,Rt.Hn.E.(N'c'tle-on-Tyne,C.)
Carlisle, Mark Jackson, Colin Silkin, John (Deptford)
Carmichael, Neil Jay, Rt. Hn. Douglas Silkin, S. C. (Camberwell, Dulwich)
Castle, Rt. Hn. Barbara Jeger,Mrs.Lena(H'b'n&St.P'cras,S.) Skeffington, Arthur
Craddock, George (Bradford, S.) Jenkins, Rt. Hn. Roy (Stechford) Slater, Mrs. Harriet (Stoke, N.)
Cullen, Mrs. Alice Johnston, Russell (Inverness) Small, William
Dalkeith, Ear[...] of Jones.Rt.Hn.Sir Elwyn(W.Ham,S.) Steel, David (Roxburgh)
Darling, George Jones, J. Idwal (Wrexham) Swain, Thomas
Davies, Harold (Leek) Jopling, Michael Swingler, Stephen
Davies, Ifor (Gower) Kenyon, Clifford Taverne, Dick
de Freitas, Sir Geoffrey Kirk, Peter Taylor, Bernard (Mansfield)
Diamond, John Lawson, George Thomas, George (Cardiff, W.)
Dodds, Norman Lewis, Ron (Carlisle) Thomas, lorwerth (Rhondda, W.)
Driberg, Tom Lipton, Marcus Thornton, Ernest
Duffy, Dr. A. E. P. Loveys, Walter H. Thorpe, Jeremy
Dunn, James A. Lubbock, Eric Tinn, James
Edwards, Robert (Bilston) Mabon, Dr. J. Dickson Urwin, T. W.
Evans, Albert (Islington, S.W.) McBride, Neil Walder, David (High Peak)
Fletcher, Sir Eric (Islington, E.) McKay, Mrs. Margaret White, Mrs. Eirene
Fletcher, Ted (Darlington) Mackenzie, Gregor (Rutherglen) Whitlock, William
Floud, Bernard Mackie, George Y. (C'ness & S'land) Willey, Rt. Hn. Frederick
Foley, Maurice Mackie, John (Enfield, E.) Williams, Albert (Abertillery)
Foot, Sir Dingle (Ipswich) MacMillan, Malcolm Williams, Mrs. Shirley (Hitchin)
Foot, Michael (Ebbw Vale) Mahon, Simon (Bootle) Willis, George (Edinburgh,E.)
Foster, Sir John Manuel, Archie Wilson, William (Coventry, S.)
Freeson, Reginald Mapp, Charles Woodburn, Rt. Hn. A.
Galpern, Sir Myer Milne, Edward (Blyth) Zilliacus, K.
Garrow, A. Miscampbell, Norman
Gourlay, Harry Molloy, William TELLERS FOR THE AYES:
Gregory, Arnold Monslow, Walter Mr. Richard Crawshaw and
Grimond, Rt. Hn. J. Mulley,Rt.Hn.Frederick(SheffieldPk) Mr. Stanley Orme.
Hamilton, William (West Fife) O'Malley, Brian
NOES
Allan, Robert (Paddington, S.) Boyd-Carpenter, Rt. Hn. J. Cooke, Robert
Barlow, Sir John Braine, Bernard Cordle, John
Bennett, Sir Frederic (Torquay) Brewis, John Costain, A. P.
Bennett, Dr. Reginald (Gos & Fhm) Brinton, Sir Tatton Courtney, Cdr. Anthony
Berry, Hn. Anthony Bromley-Davenport.Lt.-Col.SirWalter Cunningham, Sir Knox
Bessell, Peter Brown, Sir Edward (Bath) Curran, Charles
Blaker, Peter Buck, Antony Davies, Dr. Wyndham (Perry Barr)
Bossom, Hn. Clive Buxton, Ronald Dean, Paul
Box, Donald Clark, William (Nottingham, S.) Digby, Simon Wingfield

The Committee divided: Ayes 139, Noes 90.

Elliot, Capt. Walter (Carshalton) Longden, Gilbert Stodart, Anthony
Farr, John McAdden, Sir Stephen Stoddart-Scott, Col. Sir Malcolm
Fell, Anthony Mackenzie, Alasdair (Ross&Crom'ty) Studholme, Sir Henry
Gammans, Lady McNair-Wilson, Patrick Summers, Sir Spencer
Gibson-Watt, David Maginnis, John E. Taylor, Sir Charles (Eastbourne)
Gilmour, Sir John (East Fife) Maude, Angus Taylor, Edward M. (G'gow,Cathcart)
Glover, Sir Douglas Maydon, Lt.-Cmdr. S. L. C. Temple, John M.
Godber, Rt. Hn. J. B. Mitchell, David Thatcher, Mrs. Margaret
Goodhew, Victor Monro, Hector Thompson, Sir Richard (Croydon,S.)
Gower, Raymond Nicholls, Sir Harmar Thorneycroft, Rt. Hn. Peter
Harris, Frederic (Croydon, N.W.) Noble, Rt. Hn. Michael Tweedsmuir, Lady
Harris, Reader (Heston) Orr-Ewing, Sir lan van Straubenzee, W. R.
Harvey, Sir Arthur Vere (Macclesf'd) Osborn, John (Hallam) Ward, Dame Irene
Harvie Anderson, Miss Osborne, Sir Cyril (Louth) Weatherill, Bernard
Hendry, For[...]bes Page, John (Harrow, W.) Webster, David
Hiley, Joseph Pearson, Sir Frank (Clitheroe) Wills, Sir Gerald (Bridgwater)
Hill, J. E. B. (S. Norfolk) Pickthorn, Rt. Hn. Sir Kenneth Wilson, Geoffrey (Truro)
Jennings, J. C. Ridley, Hn. Nicholas Wolrige-Gordon, Patrick
Kilfedder, James A. Robson Brown, Sir William Yates, William (The Wrekin)
Kimball, Marcus Scott-Hopkins, James
Lagden, Godfrey Sinclair, Sir George TELLERS FOR THE NOES:
Legge-Bourke, Sir Harry Smyth, Rt. Hn. Brig. Sir John Mr. Ian Percival and
Sir Rolf Dudley Williams
Bill reported, with Amendments; as amended, to be considered Tomorrow and to be printed. [Bill 154.]
Sitting suspended.

Sitting resumed at 2.30 p.m.