HC Deb 25 June 1964 vol 697 c606
16. Mr. Wall

asked the Secretary of State for Technical Co-operation how many designated officers and how many non-designated officers are now serving in Northern Rhodesia and Nyasaland, respectively; and how many of each category have resigned, retired or been found redundant during the past 12 months.

Mr. Carr

Of the officers serving in Northern Rhodesia, 1,958 are designated and 784 are non-designated, and in Nyasaland, 678 and 15, respectively. Of officers leaving the service during the last 12 months, in Northern Rhodesia, 188 were designated and 101 non-designated; in Nyasaland, 60 and 2, respectively.

Mr. Wall

Is my right hon. Friend aware that the terms offered to non-designated civil servants on Africanisation are totally inadequate? Is he also aware that talks between the Civil Service Association and the Northern Rhodesian Government have recently broken down? Will my right hon. Friend undertake to discuss the matter with that Government? Otherwise, we will have a situation in which very few non-designated civil servants will be left in Northern Rhodesia after independence.

Mr. Carr

These are matters for my right hon. Friend the Commonwealth Secretary and I cannot reply on them, but I will, of course, make sure that his attention is drawn to what my hon. Friend has just said.