HC Deb 21 January 1964 vol 687 cc906-7
29. Sir J. Langford-Holt

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will authorise an increase in the salaries of the senior staff of the Public Trustee Office.

The Chief Secretary to the Treasury (Mr. John Boyd-Carpenter)

No, Sir. As my hon. Friend is no doubt aware, the salaries of the Public Trustee and his most senior staff were increased substantially as from 1st August, 1963.

Sir J. Langford-Holt

I do not wish to enter into the discussions between the Lord Chancellor and my hon. Friend the Member for Solihull (Sir M. Lindsay); but may I ask whether my right hon. and learned Friend would agree that to get the best results we must pay salaries which are more than a little over half of those paid by large private institutions?

Mr. Boyd-Carpenter

As my hon. Friend says, one does not wish to get involved in a matter which is the responsibility of the Lord Chancellor. But the salaries of the senior members of the Public Trustee Office were very substantially increased only a few months ago and I do not think that any further increase is appropriate at present.

Mr. Bence

Will the right hon. and learned Gentleman inform the House of the percentage of the increase given?

Mr. Boyd-Carpenter

It varies, but it followed the recommendation of the Franks Committee on the Higher Civil Service. Over a period of between four and four-and-a-half years it averaged about 4 per cent. per annum.