§ 12. Mr. Shinwell
asked the Secretary of State for War what reduction in the civilian and military staff of his Department will be effected when the Defence (Transfer of Functions) Bill becomes law.
§ Mr. Kirk
When the Bill becomes law, some 500 military and civil staff of the War Department will be transferred to the central element of the new Ministry of Defence on 1st April, 1964. There will be no other immediate reductions in the present War Office staff as a directresult of the changes provided for in the Bill, but the progressive reduction maintained since 1961 will continue and may in due course be accelerated.
§ Mr. Shinwell
Does that mean that, in spite of all the talk about the co- 196 ordination of the defenceorganisation, there is only to be the transfer of 500, civil and military, from the War Office to the new Defence Department, and no actual reduction in the War Office taking place? Was not this thought out before the Bill was introduced in the House?