HC Deb 25 November 1963 vol 685 cc26-7
30. Mr. Sorensen

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs what forms of aid have been extended by Her Majesty's Government to the Republics of Indonesia and the Philippines; what is the financial value of such aid; whether this aid has included any direct or indirect assistance for military purposes; and if he will propose to the Government of the United States of America that any future form of aid to either Government is given mutually by Her Majesty's Government and the Government of the United States of America.

Mr. R. A. Butler

The only significant aid extended by Her Majesty's Government to either country in recent years has been technical assistance under the Colombo Plan. The value of this in the last financial year was £67,935 in the case of the Philippines, and £63,657 in the case of Indonesia. The only form of military assistance received by either country has been the provision of a small number of places on training courses for members of their armed forces, generally at their expense. This is a facility offered to most countries outside the Communist bloc, but no places have been offered to Indonesia since early this year.

We have discussions with the United States Government about the aid which both of us give to developing countries, but I do not believe that the specific proposal made by the hon. Gentleman would be acceptable to the United States Government.

Mr. Sorensen

While in no sense regretting the economic and other forms of aid to the Philippines, may I ask whether the right hon. Gentleman does not think that it would be advisable, in a friendly way, to contact the United States Government to see whether they can collaborate with this country in any form of aid to the Phillippines and Indonesia with a special view to preventing any kind of military assistance being given?

Mr. Butler

I ascertained before answering the Question that the position as regards Indonesia is as follows. American military aid has been stopped. Long-term development aid is in suspense. Bilateral economic aid approved by Congress is continuing, and we are in touch with the Americans about the extent of this.

Mr. P. Williams

Can my right hon. Friend give an undertaking that any aid which may have been under consideration for Indonesia and which has subsequently been stopped will be switched to Malaysia?

Mr. Butler

I wish that that could be so.