§ 23. Mr. Steeleasked the Chancellor of the Exchequer where and when contracts are being placed for the £2 million worth of diesel locomotives and wagon ferries which he has promised to the East African Common Services Organisation.
§ 24. Mr. Smallasked the Chancellor of the Exchequer where and when contracts are being placed for the £2 million work of sugar machinery which he has promised as additional aid to Pakistan from under-utilised resources in Britain.
§ 25. Mr. Dalyellasked the Chancellor of the Exchequer where contracts are to be placed for the £3½ million of steel plates and other steel products which he has promised as additional aid to India from under-utilised resources in Britain; and when they will be awarded.
§ Mr. MaudlingThe placing of these contracts is the responsibility of the Governments receiving the loans. I understand that the diesel locomotives are to be ordered from the English Electric Company at Darlington. The suppliers of the wagon ferries, the sugar machinery, and the steel plates and other steel products are not yet decided. It is in each case a condition of the loan that the contract must be placed in the United Kingdom within a short time.
§ Mr. SteeleWhile welcoming the concept and idea behind the Chancellor's intention to use surplus capacity where unemployment exists, may I ask whether he will reconsider the matter concerning diesel locomotives and enable British Railways, who have a lot of surplus capacity, to use their workshops for supplying diesel locomotives abroad?
§ Mr. MaudlingThat question goes into fairly wide considerations of transport policy, which have been discussed 1077 on many occasions. There is, however, capacity in the private enterprise industry, which has been equipped over a long period to meet overseas orders.
§ Mr. SmallWith regard to sugar machinery, to which Question No. 24 refers, will the Chancellor make the maximum information available in Scotland so as to provide an opportunity for tenders to be submitted in time?
§ Mr. MaudlingYes, Sir, we will do our best to ensure that. I believe that Scotland is rather good at making this type of machinery.
§ Mr. DalyellWill the right hon. Gentleman prepare some sort of industrial intinerary for visiting delegations from India and East Africa?
§ Mr. MaudlingThe people who purchase on behalf of those Governments are, I believe, well aware of the capacity which is available in this country.
§ Mr. DalyellWill the Chancellor tell them which firms they should visit?
§ Mr. MaudlingNo. It would be quite wrong for the Government to do that. The firms should compete for the orders. The House will, I think, find that in the case of steel plates and other items, the firms with capacity to meet this sort of requirement are almost all within development districts.
§ Mr. SteeleSurely, the right hon. Gentleman is defeating his purpose if he refuses to give this information. Is it not true that his idea is to use surplus capacity in the development districts? Surely, he should produce some kind of guide to enable firms to go to these places.
§ Mr. MaudlingI am certainly happy that the Board of Trade would be willing to give any information on the subject. I should have thought that the Indian Government would know perfectly well who were the makers of steel plates in this country and who, by and large, are to be found in the North-East and in Scotland.