HC Deb 22 February 1962 vol 654 cc657-69

If at any time the Secretary of State is satisfied that a Commonwealth country admits citizens of the United Kingdom and Colonies without restrictions or conditions he shall make an order providing that the citizens of that country may enter and reside in the United Kingdom without restriction or condition and thereafter this Act shall not apply to the citizens of that country.—[Lady Megan Lloyd George.]

Brought up, and read the First time.

Lady Megan Lloyd George (Carmarthen)

I beg to move, That the Clause be read a Second time.

The Clause should be taken with the Amendment in page 3, line 34, at the end to insert: Provided that the provisions of this section shall not apply to any country within the Commonwealth which admits without limitation the free entry of citizens of the United Kingdom subject only to reasonable restrictions for medical reasons or on grounds of a criminal record.

Mr. Speaker

Order. I am a little confused by what the hon. Lady said. It is true that I would allow that Amendment to be discussed with this new Clause, but her new Clause alone is the subject matter which has been selected.

Lady Megan Lloyd George

The purpose of the new Clause is plain. It is that where any country of the Commonwealth admits immigrants from this country without restriction we should accord the same rights of free entry to citizens of that country into the United Kingdom. It is an attempt to establish reciprocity and to establish a two-way traffic between any country of the Commonwealth which allows free entry and the United Kingdom. As I understand, at the moment India allows virtually free entry of immigrants from this country. I think that only missionaries are debarred. Jamaica, too, virtually waives all restrictions on the entry of British subjects into that country.

We have heard a great deal during the debates of the advantages which accrue to Commonwealth citizens coming to this country in opportunity for work, study and further education, but, as far as I know, in the course of the debates we have heard very little about the attractions which there may be for British citizens going to some other Commonwealth countries. I have mentioned Jamaica in particular because Jamaica already accords free entry, and it certainly has a great many attractions for a certain class of British immigrant.

It is not only the sun which attracts them there; it is also the lower rates of Income Tax and the fact that if they establish themselves, as they have established themselves in considerable numbers in Jamaica, they escape from heavy Income Tax, Surtax and Estate Duty. For these reasons there has been a considerable exodus to Jamaica.

Secondly, the Commonwealth is expanding and new countries are joining, and I very much hope that if the new Clause is accepted by the Government—I live in hopes, as I always do, that they will accept a few new Clauses or Amendments before the end of Report—this reciprocity will be extended to new countries entering the Commonwealth.

One argument which has been constantly used by hon. Members opposite in favour of the Bill is that the present arrangements are very one-sided and that they operate against British subjects wishing to emigrate to Commonwealth countries. This is an opportunity to redress the balance, and I hope very much that the Government will accept the new Clause, which is eminently reasonable and which will give reciprocity between other countries of the Commonwealth and this country. I therefore commend it to the House.

4.30 p.m.

Mr. Raymond Gower (Barry)

The hon. Lady the Member for Carmarthen (Lady Megan Lloyd George) introduced her proposed Clause in her usual moderate and persuasive way. She said that it would appear to be consistent with the views that have been expressed by some of my hon. Friends, who have suggested that the Bill has a justification because other Commonwealth countries have restrictions of their own.

But surely the Bill was not introduced as a sort of tit for tat—that because other countries of the Commonwealth have certain restrictions we must have some. It was designed to meet a particular problem in the United Kingdom. I would have thought that the proposed new Clause would be wholly incompatible with the objects of the Bill and with the general principle of the Measure as approved on Second Reading. That object is not to prevent people from coming here, but merely to delay the date of arrival, if necessary.

If a provision such as that now proposed were incorporated in the Bill it might mean that a number of territories to which British people seldom go, but from which large numbers might desire to come here, would be removed from the control of this country by reciprocal arrangements such as this. For these reasons, I would have thought that the Clause, if approved, would make nonsense of the Bill.

Mr. Dingle Foot (Ipswich)

In our discussions we have to distinguish between the reasons for introducing the Bill and the excuses which have been advanced for it. The proposed new Clause is not an academic one, or a wrecking proposal. It raises a very real issue which may be of considerable importance to the future of the Commonwealth.

I had a rather unusual experience last year, for I happened to be in New Delhi at the time when the Bill was introduced. I had the opportunity of discussing the Measure with Indian political leaders and also with representatives of the Indian Ministry of External Affairs. They expressed some strong feelings and many of them considered it to be an extremely retrograde Bill. As my hon. Friend the Member for Carmarthen (Lady Megan Lloyd George) pointed out, since gaining her independence India has followed a liberal immigration policy except, as my hon. Friend said, for missionaries, who are a special class to themselves. There is, in effect, completely free entry for citizens of this country and that has been the case since 1947.

If one visits Delhi or other Indian centres one finds British citizens occupying responsible positions, often competing with the Indians themselves. To some extent they create a considerable exchange problem for India, for many of them are remitting funds to Britain at a time when India has exchange difficulties. Despite this, no obstacles are placed in the way of British nationals who wish to make their homes, albeit for the time being, and earn their living in India.

One of the dangers of the Bill is that it may create in India and other parts of the Commonwealth a demand for similar legislation. I do not say that it will—just that it may happen. If it happens in India and that country abandons what, in practice, if not in theory, has been its present policy up to now and India starts putting restrictions on British nationals who wish to go there, what will be the result? It will mean that we shall have created in the Commonwealth two sets of restrictions where no restrictions existed before. We will have done this at a time when we should have been pulling barriers down and not building them up.

It has previously been pointed out that the British Government are now negotiating our entry into the Common Market and I am one of those who hope that those negotiations will succeed and that we shall accede to the Treaty of Rome. But it will be a most ironical development if, at the moment when we are joining the Common Market and providing for increased freedom of movement between European countries, we should pass a Measure which will result in increasing restrictions and barriers being placed on Commonwealth countries.

I hope, therefore, that the Government will seriously consider the proposed new Clause. While they may not accept it in its present form, I hope that we shall receive an assurance that the principle of reciprocity is not ruled out.

Mr. Charles Royle (Salford, West)

Because of the Guillotine Motion I do not intend to speak for long, particularly as my hon. Friend the Member for Carmarthen (Lady Megan Lloyd George) has made such a powerful plea.

I am concerned about the situation which is developing in some parts of the Commonwealth following the introduction of the Bill. The hon. Member for Carmarthen suggested that the proposed new Clause might go some way towards alleviating the feelings that are growing in some parts of the Commonwealth. There can be no doubt that in some areas, particularly Jamaica, there is a growing feeling that they want to keep English people out of their country—all because of the introduction of this Measure. If one goes about the streets of Jamaica now one hears, for the first time, utterances like, "White man go home".

I am concerned about this, because it is a blow against everything we consider to be best for the Commonwealth. Anything that we can do of a reciprocal character will help the well-being of the Commonwealth generally. It is on this ground—because I can see these feelings against us growing because of the Bill—that I urge the right hon. Gentleman to accept the new Clause.

Mr. Michael Foot (Ebbw Vale)

I wish to raise one main question. Prior to the decision of the Government to introduce this Measure, and when they had consultations—as they claim to have had—with Commonwealth countries, was this question, concerning those Commonwealth countries which now allow free entry, raised? Was this subject raised before the Bill was introduced, or has it been raised in the discussions with Commonwealth countries since its introduction? Will the Minister give an account of any such discussions that have taken place and say whether any suggestion was made by any Commonwealth countries that they would introduce legislation of the type to which reference has been made?

Whatever may be the Minister's reply, I am strongly in favour of the proposed new Clause. Judging by the way in which the Bill was originally introduced, none of us believe that proper consultations were held and therefore, it is extremely important for us to know whether there were any such consultations regarding the question of similar legislation being introduced by other Commonwealth countries. In any case, whatever the answer may be, did the Government make a calculation of the economic loss to this country which would result from other Commonwealth countries following their example and introducing similar legislation?

Mr. Donald Chapman (Birmingham, Northfield)

My hon. Friends have already mentioned Jamaica and I wish to add a few words on this subject. Two things should be realised about the situation in that country. First, legislation already exists in Jamaica to restrict the entry of people from Britain. In fact, that legislation was passed when Britain had control over Jamaica's internal affairs, tout it has since been decided by the independent Governor of Jamaica not to use that legislation.

We should remember, therefore, that it was we who imposed the restrictive legislation and that it is the independent Jamaica which has relaxed the restrictions and said, "By all means, let in every Englishman who lands". The Prime Minister of Jamaica has gone so far as to say, in effect, "Let them all land. We will sort out afterwards whether there are some undesirables who ought not to have been allowed to land". He has put the accent on the right to land and to enter. This has been done by the independent country, whereas we, the Mother Country, have imposed restrictions.

The second fact to be remembered is that Jamaica is adopting that attitude in spite of her unemployment problem. In Jamaica, there are about 600,000 or 700,000 people in the adult working force, and of those nearly 100,000 are totally unemployed. Among young men particularly, those between 15 and 25 years of age, about one in five or even one in four is totally unemployed. Jamaica has taken her stand not just "to attract brains but in a spirit of liberalism, saying that, despite her internal difficulties, free entry will be allowed to every British citizen or citizen from other parts of the Commonwealth as a matter of principle, because she believes in our great Commonwealth.

I should have thought that that was worthy of a little reciprocity. It is a wonderful gesture for Jamaica to have made, and I hope that the new Clause, or something like it, will be used to show our satisfaction, if no more, at the gesture which has been made.

Dr. Alan Glyn (Clapham)

Is not the number of British people or other Commonwealth citizens going there very small in comparison with the number coming from Jamaica to this country? Further, does not the hon. Gentleman agree that that very small number will not in any way jeopardise employment prospects in Jamaica?

Mr. Chapman

What the hon. Gentleman does not know—I will tell him, though it is a little difficult to put it accurately in a few words—is that the number of white or British immigrants per 1,000 of population in Jamaica is greater than the number of Jamaican immigrants coming here per 1,000 of the population.

Dr. Glyn

But is it not a fact that the majority of those who go over there are of independent means and do not go for jobs?

Mr. Chapman

Yes, but they put a considerable strain on Jamaica's resources, her balance of payments and others matters. Jamaica has a very big import bill for food. This is one of her economic problems. In fact, a large number of people there could add to problems of that kind. There are many problems both ways. There are advantages and disadvantages, but the Jamaicans have taken their stand on principle. That is the way in which the Prime Minister of Jamaica announced his original decision.

Mr. David Weitzman (Stoke Newington and Hackney, North)

The hon. Member for Barry (Mr. Gower) said that the principle of reciprocity made nonsense of the Bill. We have always been proud of our liberal tradition, using the word "liberal" in the best sense, in admitting people to this country.

I put this question to the Minister of State. Will he not agree in principle that, where a member country of the Commonwealth freely admits citizens of this country, it is right and proper that we should freely admit citizens from that country to Britain?

4.45 p.m.

The Minister of State, Home Office (Mr. David Renton)

The noble Lady the Member for Carmarthen (Lady Megan Lloyd George) and those who have supported her new Clause have made their case in a very temperate way, and I shall do my best to answer it. It raises considerable difficulties of both practice and principle.

As I understand it, there are only four countries or self-governing Independencies of the Commonwealth which at present freely admit people from the United Kingdom. They are Jamaica, India, Pakistan and Cyprus. All the others have restrictions of one kind or another. India, Pakistan and Jamaica happen to be the three Commonwealth countries from which by far the largest numbers of immigrants came here last year—about 90,000 altogether—and, of course, many more might try to come from those countries in the future. Therefore, one practical result of the new Clause would be to enable large numbers of people to come from those three countries, which would make our proposed control largely ineffective.

The noble Lady has referred to the attractions for British citizens of going to Commonwealth countries, and the hon. Member for Ebbw Vale (Mr. M. Foot) asked whether the question of reciprocity was the subject of consultation before the Bill was introduced. I shall answer the hon. Gentleman first. The consultations, of course, were confidential and they have been very extensive, but I will say this in answer to him. Before introducing the Bill, we bore in mind all the effects it would have, including the possibility of some modification of reciprocity.

My answer to the noble Lady is that, just as we shall continue to welcome to this country genuine visitors from the Commonwealth, people with skill and business people, among many other categories whose position has been considered during the passage of the Bill, so, we believe, Jamaica, India, Pakistan and Cyprus, whatever change they may make in their laws, will continue to do likewise.

I come now to the question of principle, since it is not merely the practical effect which we ought to bear in mind here, although that is important. The new Clause would do even more than I have so far explained. It would mean that our own immigration policy would cease to be decided by the United Kingdom Government under powers given by our Parliament and would instead be decided by Governments of other Commonwealth countries. All they would need to do is pass a law giving reciprocity and then, if the new Clause were accepted, that law would, in effect, become part of our law.

I say that that would be undemocratic. It would be a way of getting round a decision of the British Parliament, and the result would be somewhat fantastic.

Lady Megan Lloyd George

If the new Clause were accepted, the principle would have been accepted by the British Parliament and it would, therefore, be only a matter of implementing a decision of the British Parliament.

Mr. Renton

I say that, in any event, this is not a principle which should be accepted by the House and passed by the British Parliament in that way. I will explain why.

We introduced the Bill because our country is already overcrowded and is certain to become more so. It will become more so, I agree, even with the Bill; but it surely must be for the United Kingdom Government alone to make decisions affecting immigration into this country. Such decision will be made in the light of employment prospects, economic expansion and other factors which vary from time to time.

I hope that hon. Members opposite will see the strength of the argument I have put and will, in the circumstances, think it best not to press the new Clause.

Mr. Eric Fletcher (Islington, East)

I find the Minister's reply totally unsatisfactory. He failed to answer the very strong case which has been made by my hon. Friends, and I content myself with saying that I hope that they will register their opinion in the Lobby in support of the new Clause.

Question put, That the Clause be read a Second time:—

The House divided: Ayes 167, Noes 233.

Division No. 100.] AYES [4.50 p.m.
Ainsley, William Fletcher, Eric Key, Art, Hon. C. W.
Albu, Austen Foot, Dingle (Ipswich) King, Dr. Horace
Allaun, Frank (Salford, E.) Foot, Michael (Ebbw Vale) Lewis, Arthur (west Ham, N.)
Allen, Scholefield (Crewe) Forman, J. C. Lipton, Marcus
Beaney, Alan Fraser, Thomas (Hamilton) Mabon, Dr. J. Dickson
Bellenger, Rt. Hon. F. J, Galpern, Sir Myer MacColl, James
Bence, Cyril George, Lady Megan Lloyd (Crmrthn) McInnes, James
Benson, Sir George Ginsburg, David McKay, John (Wallsend)
Blackburn, F. Gordon Walker, Rt. Hon. P. C. McLeavy, Frank
Blyton, William Gourlay, Harry Macpherson, Malcolm (Stirling)
Boardman, H. Griffiths, David (Rother Valley) Mallalieu, J. P. W. (Huddersfield, E.)
Bowen, Orderly (Cardigan) Griffiths, Rt. Hon. James (Llanelly) Manuel, A. C.
Bowles, Frank Griffiths, w. (Exchange) Mapp, Charles
Boyden, James Grimond, Rt. Hon. J. Marsh, Richard
Braddock, Mrs. E, M. Hale, Leslie (Oldham, W.) Mason, Roy
Brockway, A. Fenner Hamilton, William (West Fife) Mayhew, Christopher
Broughton, Dr. A. D. D. Hannan, William Mendelson, J. J.
Brown, Rt. Hon. George (Belper) Hart, Mrs. Judith Millan, Bruce
Butler, Herbert (Hackney, C.) Hayman, F. H. Milne, Edward
Butler, Mrs. Joyce (Wood Green) Henderson, Rt. Hn. Arthur (Rwly Regis) Mitchison, G. R.
Callaghan, James Herbison, Miss Margaret Monslow, Walter
Chapman, Donald Hewitson, Capt. M. Moody, A. S.
Cliffe, Michael Holman, Percy Morris, John
Cronin, John Houghton, Douglas Moyle, Arthur
Crosland, Anthony Howell, Denis (Small Heath) Mulley, Frederick
Cullen, Mrs. Alice Hughes, Cledwyn (Anglesey) Noel-Baker, Rt. Hn. Philip (Derby, S.)
Darling, George Hughes, Emrys (S. Ayrshire) Oliver, G. H.
Davies, Rt. Hn. Clement (Montgomery) Hughes, Hector (Aberdeen, N.) Oram, A. E.
Davies, G. Elfed (Rhondda, E.) Hunter, A. E. Owen, Will
Davies, Harold (Leek) Hynd, H. (Accrington) Pannell, Charles (Leeds W.)
Davies, Ifor (Gower) Hynd, John (Attercliffe) Parkin, B. T.
Deer, George Irving, Sydney (Dartford) Paton, John
Dempsey, James Jeger, George Pavitt, Laurence
Diamond, John Johnson, Carol (Lewisham, S.) Peart, Frederick
Dodds, Norman Jones, Rt. Hn. A. Creech (Wakefield) Prentice, R. E.
Ede, Rt. Hon. C. Jones, Dan (Burnley) Probert, Arthur
Edwards, Robert (Bilston) Jones, J. Idwal (Wrexham) Pursey, Cmdr. Harry
Edwards, Walter (Stepney) Jones, T. W. (Merioneth) Randall, Harry
Evans, Albert Kelley, Richard Roberts, Goronwy (Caernarvon)
Fernyhough, E. Kenyon, Clifford Robertson, John (Paisley)
Robinson, Kenneth (St. Pancras, N.) Stonehouse, John White, Mrs. Eirene
Ross, William Stones, William Whitlock, William
Royle, Charles (Salford, West) Strachey, Rt. Hon. John Wilkins, W. A.
Shinwell, Rt. Hon. E. Strauss, Rt. Hn. G. R. (Vauxhall) Willey, Frederick
Short, Edward Swain, Thomas Williams, LI. (Abertillery)
Silverman, Julius (Aston) Swingler, Stephen Williams, W. R. (Openshaw)
Silverman, Sydney (Nelson) Symonds, J. B. Willis, E. G. (Edinburgh, E.)
Skeffington, Arthur Thomas, Iorwerth (Rhondda, W.) Wilson, Rt. Hon. Harold (Huyton)
Slater, Mrs. Harriet (Stoke, N.) Thompson, Dr. Alan (Dunfermline) Winterbottom, R. E.
Slater, Joseph (Sedgefield) Thomson, G. M. (Dundee, E.) Woof, Robert
Small, William Thornton, Ernest Wyatt, Woodrow
Smith, Ellis (Stoke, S.) Ungoed-Thomas, Sir Lynn Yates, Victor (Ladywood)
Snow, Julian Wade, Donald Zilliacus, K.
Sorensen, R. W. Wainwright, Edwin
Spriggs, Leslie Warbey, William TELLERS FOR THE AYES:
Steele, Thomas Weitzman, David Mr. G. H. R. Rogers and
Stewart, Michael (Fulham) Wells, Percy (Faversham) Mr. Lawson.
Agnew, Sir Peter Fletcher-Cooke, Charles McAdden, Stephen
Aitken, W. T. Fraser, Ian (Plymouth, Sutton) MacArthur, Ian
Allason, James Gammans, Lady McLaren, Martin
Arbuthnot, John George, J. C. (Pollok) Maclean, SirFitzroy (Bute&N. Ayrs.)
Atkins, Humphrey Gilmour, Sir John Macleod, Rt. Hn. Iain (Enfield, W.)
Barlow, Sir John Glover, Sir Douglas McMaster, Stanley R.
Baxter, Sir Beverley (Southgate) Glyn, Dr. Alan (Clapham) Macmillan, Rt. Hn. Harold (Bromley)
Beamish, Col. Sir Tufton Glyn, Sir Richard (Dorset, N.) MacPherson, Niall (Dumfries)
Bell, Ronald Goodhart Philip Maddan, Martin
Biffen, John Goodhew, Victor Manningham-Buller, Rt. Hn. Sir R.
Biggs-Davison, John Gower, Raymond Markham, Major Sir Frank
Birch, Rt. Hon. Nigel Grant, Rt. Hon. William Marshall, Douglas
Bishop, F. P. Grant-Ferris, Wg. Cdr. R. Marten, Neil
Black, Sir Cyril Green, Alan Mathew, Robert (Honiton)
Bossom, Clive Gresham Cooke, R. Matthews, Gordon (Meriden)
Brume-Arton, A. Gurden, Harold Mawby, Ray
Box, Donald Hall, John (Wycombe) Maxwell-Hyslop, R. J.
Boyd-Carpenter, Rt. Hon. J. Hamilton, Michael (Wellingborough) Maydon, Lt.-Cmdr. S. L. C.
Boyle, Sir Edward Harrison, Brian (Maldon) Mills, Stratton
Braine, Bernard Harrison, Col. Sir Harwood (Eye) Montgomery, Fergus
Bromley-Davenport, Lt.-Col. Sir Walter Harvey, Sir Arthur Vere (Macclesf'd) More, Jasper (Ludlow)
Brooke, Rt. Hon. Henry Harvie Anderson, Miss Morgan, William
Brooman-White, R. Hastings, Stephen Morrison, John
Brown, Alan (Tottenham) Heald, Rt. Hon. Sir Lionel Mott-Radclyffe, Sir Charles
Browne, Percy (Torrington) Hendry, Forbes Nabarro, Gerald
Bryan, Paul Hicks Beach, Maj. W. Neave, Airey
Bullard, Denys Hiley, Joseph Nugent, Rt. Hon. Sir Richard
Bullus, Wing Commander Eric Hill, Mrs. Eveline (Wythenshawe) Oakshott, Sir Hendrie
Burden, F. A. Hill, J. E. B. (S. Norfolk) Orr, Capt. L. P. S.
Butcher, Sir Herbert Hirst, Geoffrey Osborn, John (Hallam)
Butler, Rt. Hn. R. A.(Saffron Walden) Hobson, Sir John Page, Graham (Crosby)
Campbell, Gordon (Moray & Nairn) Holland, Philip Page, John (Harrow, West)
Carr, Compton (Barons Court) Hollingworth, John Pannell, Norman (Kirkdale)
Channon, H. P. G. Hopkins, Alan Partridge, E.
Clark, William (Nottingham, S.) Hornby, R. P. Pearson, Frank (Clitheroe)
Clarke, Brig. Terence (Portsmth, W.) Hughes Hallett, Vice-Admiral John Peel, John
Cleaver, Leonard Hughes-Young, Michael Percival, Ian
Cole, Norman Hulbert, Sir Norman Pickthorn, Sir Kenneth
Collard, Richard Hutchison, Michael Clark Pilkington, Sir Richard
Cooke, Robert Irvine, Bryant Godman (Rye) Pitman, Sir James
Cooper, A. E. Jackson, John Pitt, Miss Edith
Cordle, John Jenkins, Robert (Dulwich) Pott, Percivall
Corfield, F. V. Jennings, J. C. Powell, Rt. Hon. J. Enoch
Costain, A. P. Johnson, Dr. Donald (Carlisle) Price, David (Eastleigh)
Coulson, Michael Johnson, Eric (Blackley) Prior, J. M. L.
Courtney, Cdr. Anthony Johnson Smith, Geoffrey Prior-Palmer, Brig. Sir Othe
Craddock, Sir Beresford Kerans, Cdr. J. S. Pym, Francis
Critchley, Julian Kerby, Capt. Henry Quennell, Miss J. M.
Crosthwaite-Eyre, Col. Sir Oliver Kerr, Sir Hamilton Rawlinson, Peter
Cunningham, Knox Kershaw, Anthony Redmayne, Rt. Hon. Martin
Dalkeith, Earl of Kimball, Marcus Renton, David
Dance, James Kirk, Peter Ridley, Hon. Nicholas
de Ferranti, Basil Kitson, Timothy Ridsdale, Julian
Digby, Simon Wingfield Lagden, Godfrey Roberts, Sir Peter (Heeley)
Doughty, Charles Lancaster, Col. C. G. Ropner, Col. Sir Leonard
Drayson, G. B. Leather, E. H. C. Royle, Anthony (Richmond, Surrey)
Duncan, Sir James Legge-Bourke, Sir Harry Russell, Ronald
Eden, John Lindsay, Sir Martin Scott-Hopkins, James
Elliot, Capt. Walter (Carshalton) Linstead, Sir Hugh Sharples, Richard
Elliott, R. W. (N'castle-upon-Tyne, N.) Litchfield, Capt. John Shaw, M.
Emmet, Hon. Mrs. Evelyn Lloyd, Rt. Hon. Selwyn (Wirral) Skeet, T. H. H.
Farey-Jones, F. W. Longbottom, Charles Smith, Dudley (Br'ntf'd & Chiswick)
Farr, John Longden, Gilbert Smithers, Peter
Fell, Anthony Lucas, Sir Jocelyn Smyth, Brig. Sir John (Norwood)
Finlay, Graeme Lucas-Tooth, Sir Hugh Spearman, Sir Alexander
Speir, Rupert Tilney, John (Wavertree) Wall, Patrick
Stanley, Hon. Richard Touche, Rt. Hon. Sir Gordon Ward, Dame Irene
Stevens, Geoffrey Turner, Colin Watkinson, Rt. Hon. Harold
Studholme, Sir Henry Turton, Rt. Hon. R. H. Webster, David
Summers, Sir Spencer (Aylesbury) Tweedsmuir, Lady Williams, Dudley (Exeter)
Talbot, John E. van Straubenzee, w. R. Wilson, Geoffrey (Truro)
Tapsell, Peter Vane, W. M. F, Wise, A. R.
Taylor, Sir Charles (Eastbourne) Vickers, Miss Joan Wolrige-Gordon, Patrick
Taylor, Frank (M'ch'st'r, Moss Side) Vosper, Rt. Hon. Dennis Woodhouse, C. M.
Temple, John M. Wakefield, Edward (Derbyshire, W.) Woollam, John
Thatcher, Mrs. Margaret Wakefield, Sir Wavell (St. M'lebone) Worsley Marcus
Thomas, Peter (Conway) Walder, David
Thornton-Kemsley, Sir Colin Walker, Peter TELLERS FOR THE NOES:
Mr. Whitelaw and Mr. Batsford.