HC Deb 04 December 1962 vol 668 cc1140-2
Q4. Mr. Rankin

asked the Prime Minister if he will instruct the Ministers concerned to devise means of moderating the unemployment situation which has developed in Scotland.

The Prime Minister

The Government are deeply concerned about this. A great deal has already been done to help. Scotland will of course benefit from the expansionary measures announced by my right hon. Friend the Chancellor of the Exchequer and is receiving substantial help in Local Employment assistance and increasing public investment.

Mr. Rankin

Would the right hon. Gentleman, even by a nod of his head in the proper direction, answer the Question? Will he instruct Ministers, as suggested in the Question, to devise means?

The Prime Minister

I do not quite know what the hon. Member's experience—

Mr. Rankin rose

Hon. Members

Sit down.

The Prime Minister

Does the hon. Member for Glasgow, Govan (Mr. Rankin) want to go on?

Several Hon. Members rose

Mr. Speaker

Order. We have approached a state of confusion and I should like to hear what the hon. Member for Govan wants to say.

Mr. Rankin

May I direct the attention of the Prime Minister to the words of the Question which ask whether he will instruct the Ministers concerned to devise means of moderating the unemployment situation which has developed in Scotland"? Will the right hon. Gentleman answer that?

The Prime Minister

I do not know what the hon. Member means—

Mr. Rankin rose

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Hon. Members

Sit down.

Several Hon. Members rose

Mr. Speaker

We do not make much progress when a multiplicity of Members are on their feet. The matter would be assisted if the hon. Member for Govan would be good enough either to resume his seat or to stand up.

Mr. Rankin

May I ask the Prime Minister whether he recollects that last Thursday his Government decided to embark upon a programme of producing new vessels in the air? Would he agree to suggest to the Ministers concerned, to whom I referred, that a programme of producing new merchant and naval vessels at sea might be considered? In order to facilitate that, would the Prime Minister consider the idea of subsidies for scrapping ships and secondly long-term Government backing for credit to overseas customers?

The Prime Minister

I am quite prepared to consider all these proposals.

Mr. Grimond

When considering this matter, may I ask whether the Prime Minister would also consider giving some attention to the possibility of helping areas of heavy unemployment by means of some tax discrimination and possibly by increasing investment allowances? Also when implementing the Rochdale Report on certain ports, could the Prime Minister give a priority to work in ports which themselves serve areas where there is high unemployment?

The Prime Minister

All these matters will be taken into account. Broadly speaking, there are two groups of methods by which the situation can be improved. First, there are those which are general to the economy, that is in increasing the general strength of the economy, which is expansion. That, of course, is limited by our great need not to fall into another danger through the incomes policy not being adjusted to general expansion. Then there are the special interests of special areas such as the building of advance factories, the use of the Local Employment Act, public works, including docks, which the right hon. Gentleman mentioned, and all the other proposals which we have in mind.

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