HC Deb 04 December 1962 vol 668 cc1114-5
7. Mr. J. H. Osborn

asked the Parliamentary Secretary for Science what has been the total expenditure this year on research, excluding space research and human sciences, by the Department of Scientific and Industrial Research; how this has been spent; and how this compares with similar expenditure in previous years.

Mr. Denzil Freeth

The sums for which my hon. Friend has asked were for 1959–60, £11.1 million; for 1960–61, £13.3 million; for 1961–62, £15.2 million; for 1962–63—provision in Civil Estimates—£18.5 million. The provision in the 1962–63 Civil Estimates is, therefore, 66⅔ per cent. above actual expenditure in 1959–60. I will circulate with the OFFICIAL REPORT a breakdown of these figures.

Mr. Osborn

While thanking my hon. Friend for that reply, may I ask whether he can state now how much of that expenditure has gone to research associations?

Mr. Freeth

The annual payment to research associations has been about £2 million. The annual increase has been about 8 per cent.

Mr. Mitchison

Does not the Parliamentary Secretary admit that both the first set of figures and the last figure he gave are painfully inadequate in view of the importance of science in the world today? How do those figures compare with expenditure in other countries?

Mr. Freeth

It is very difficult to get exact comparisons with other countries, because virtually no other country has a body with exactly the same functions and limits as the D.S.I.R. The size of the grant to research associations is, of course, related to the contributions of the industrial firms for whose benefit the research associations exist.

Sir H. Legge-Bourke

Whilst I welcome the improvement that my hon. Friend has announced, may I ask him whether he would agree that before one can possibly assess the full measure of

D.S.I.R.'S EXPENDITURES ON RESEARCH OTHER THAN SPACE RESEARCH AND HUMAN SCIENCES IN THE LAST THREE FINANCIAL YEARS AND THE COMPARABLE PROVISION IN THIS YEAR'S ESTIMATES HAVE BEEN:—
£'000
1959–60 1960–61 1961–62 1962–63 (Provision in Civil Estimates)
£'000 Per cent. of total £'000 Per cent. of total £'000 Per cent. of total £'000 Per cent. of total
D.S.I.R. Research Stations 6,297 57 7,530 56 8,227 55 9,332 50
Research in Universities 1,765 16 2,548 19 3,434 22 4,732 26
Research in Industry—
(a) Research Associations 1,787 16 1,928 15 2,121 14 2,215 12
(b) Development Contracts 11 520 3
Contribution to the European Organisation for Nuclear Research 1,259 11 1,330 10 1,359 9 1,700 9
Total 11,108 100 13,336 100 15,152 100 18,499 100