HC Deb 29 March 1961 vol 637 cc1337-8
47. Mr. Wingfield Digby

asked the Minister of Defence how the total of defence expenditure proposed for 1961ߝ62, as shown in the Estimates, compares in real terms with the 1952ߝ53 Estimates.

The Minister of Defence (Mr. Harold Watkinson)

Net expenditure on defence in 1961ߝ62 is estimated at £1,655.6 million. If the consumer price index is taken as the basis for comparison, this would be equivalent to about £1,390 million at 1952 prices. A calculation more closely related to the main components of defence expenditure, and therefore more accurate for purposes of comparison, would give a figure for 1952 of £1,170 million. The amount provided in Estimates for 1952ߝ53 was £1,377.21 million.

Mr. Digby

Is it not a fact that, despite increases in the national income and in Government expenditure, defence expenditure has remained moderately stationary, and is there not a case for an increase in the total of defence expenditure now, particularly having regard to the recent increase of £700 million in America about which we read in the newspapers today?

Mr. Watkinson

This is always a difficult matter of balance. I think for the moment that we have struck the right balance between having sufficient defence funds to produce a well-balanced defence programme while not placing too great a burden on the economy as a whole. I note what my hon. Friend has said about increases in America, but I think for the moment that we have the best balance between strain on our economy as a whole and having enough money to give a balanced defence programme.

Mr. H. Hynd

Why are all these arithmetical gymnastics about real terms never used when we discuss wages?

Hon. Members

They are.