HC Deb 20 March 1961 vol 637 cc35-9

CIVIL ESTIMATES AND ESTIMATES FOR REVENUE DEPARTMENTS, TOGETHER WITH ESTIMATE FOR THE MINISTRY OF DEFENCE, 1961–62

(VOTE ON ACCOUNT)

Resolution reported,

That a sum, not exceeding £1,331,904,000, be granted to Her Majesty, on account, for or towards defraying the charges for the following Civil and Revenue Departments and for the Ministry of Defence for the year ending on the 31st day of March, 1962, viz.:—

CIVIL ESTIMATES
CLASS I
£
1. House of Lords 84,000
2. House of Commons 520,000
3. Treasury and Subordinate Departments 1,400,000
4. Privy Council Office 15,000
5. Lord Privy Seal 2,000
6. Post Office Ministers 2,500
7. Charity Commission 73,000
8. Civil Service Commission 215,000
9. Crown Estate Office 56,000
10. Exchequer and Audit Department 250,000
11. Friendly Societies Registry 38,500
12. Government Actuary 20,000
13. Government Hospitality 55,000
14. Royal Mint 10
15. National Debt Office 10
16. National Savings Committee 475,000
17. Public Record Office 55,000
18. Public Works Loan Commission 10
19. Royal Commissions. etc 120,000
20. Secret Service 2,400,000
21. Miscellaneous Expenses Scotland:— 300,000
22. Scottish Home Department 570,000
23. Scottish Record Office 20,000
CLASS II
1. Foreign Service 8,250,000
2 Foreign Office Grants and Services 8,700,000
3. British Council 1,285,000
4. Commonwealth Relations Office 1,750,000
5. Commonwealth Services 7,000,000
6. Oversea Settlement 48,000
7. Colonial Office 700,000
£
8. Colonial Services 13,000,000
9. Development and Welfare (Colonies, etc.) 8,500,000
10. Development and Welfare (Federation of Rhodesia and Nyasaland, and the High Commission Territories (Basutoland, Bechuanaland Protectorate and Swaziland)) 600,000
11. Commonwealth War Graves Commission 380,000
CLASS III
1. Home Office 1,973,000
2. Home Office (Civil Defence Services) 4,045,000
3. Police, England and Wales 20,342,000
4. Prisons, England and Wales 6,500,000
5. Child Care, England and Wales 1,171,000
6. Carlisle State Management District 10
7. Supreme Court of Judicature etc. 100,000
8. County Courts 240,000
9. Legal Aid Fund 1,000,000
10. Land Registry 10
11. Public Trustee 10
12. Law Charges 280,000
13. Miscellaneous Legal Expenses Scotland:— 45,000
14. Scottish Home Department (Civil Defence Services) 160,000
15. Police 121,000
16. Prisons 610,000
17. Child Care 165,000
18. State Management Districts 10
19. Law Charges and Courts of Law 158,000
20. Department of the Registers of Scotland 10
Ireland:—
21. Supreme Court of Judicature, etc., Northern Ireland 29,000
22. Irish Land Purchase Services 590,000
CLASS IV
1. Ministry of Education 35,100,000
2. British Museum 363,000
3. British Museum (Natural History) 190,000
4. Imperial War Museum 20,590
5. London Museum 16,600
6. National Gallery 155,000
7. Tate Gallery 64,000
8. National Maritime Museum 29,000
9. National Portrait Gallery 17,000
10. Wallace Collection 15,000
11. Grants for Science and the Arts 1,400,000
12. Universities and Colleges. etc., Great Britain 38,000,000
13. Broadcasting Scotland:— 11,200,00
14. Scottish Education Department 5,550,000
15. National Galleries 43,000
16. National Museum of Antiquities 13,000
17. National Library 43,100
CLASS V
£
1. Ministry of Housing and Local Government 3,650,000
2. Housing, England and Wales 25,000,000
3. Exchequer Grants to Local Revenues, England and Wales 186,650,000
4. Ministry of Health 9,900,000
5. National Health Service, England and Wales 188,500,000
6. Medical Research Council 1,800,000
7. Registrar General's Office 2,000,000
8. War Damage Commission Scotland:— 125,000
9. Department of Health 2,100,000
10. National Health Service 22,500,000
11. Housing 9,300,000
12. Exchequer Grants to Local Revenues 30,275,000
13. Registrar General's Office 306,000
CLASS VI
1. Board of Trade 2,200,000
2. Board of Trade (Promotion of Trade[...] Exports and Industrial Efficiency and Trading Services) 3,600,000
3. Board of Trade (Former Strategic Stocks) 180,000
4. Board of Trade (Promotion of Local Employment) 10,000,000
5. Registration of Restrictive Trading Agreements 54,600
6. Export Credits 10
7. Export Credits (Special Guarantees) 10
8. Ministry of Labour 8,079,000
9. Ministry of Aviation 75,000,000
10. Civil Aviation 1,000,000
11. Ministry of Aviation (Purchasing (Repayment) Services) 3,000,000
CLASS VII
1. Ministry of Works 2,465,000
2. Houses of Parliament Buildings 155,000
3. Public Buildings, etc., United Kingdom 10,583,000
4. Public Buildings Overseas 1,434,000
5. Royal Palaces 269,000
6. Royal Parks and Pleasure Gardens 341,000
7. Historic Buildings and Ancient Monuments 432,000
8. Rates on Government Property 8,800,000
9. Stationery and Printing 6,500,000
10. Central Office of Information 1,600,000
CLASS VIII
1. Ministry of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food 7,100,000
2. Agricultural and Food Grants and Subsidies 90,000,000
3. Agricultural and Food Services 3,800,000
4. Food (Strategic Reserves) 800,000
5. Fishery Grants and Services 2,900,000
6. Surveys of Great Britain, etc. 1,230,000
7. Agricultural Research Council 2,015,000
8. Nature Conservancy 250,000
£
9. Development Fund 600,000
10. Forestry Commission Scotland:— 4,200,000
11. Department of Agriculture and Fisheries 12,000,000
12.Fisheries (Scotland) and Herring Industry 1,100,000
CLASS IX
1. Ministry of Transport 1,446,000
2. Roads, etc., England and Wales 40,000,000
3. Transport (British Transport Commission) 34,333,000
4. Transport (Shipping and Special Services) 332,000
5. Ministry of Power 750,000
6. Ministry of Power (Services) 450,000
7. Office of the Minister for Science 30,000
8. Atomic Energy 47,000,000
9. Department of Scientific Industrial Research Scotland:— 5,245,000
10. Roads, etc. 5,932,000
CLASS X
1. Superannuation and Retired Allowances 8,100,000
2. Ministry of Pensions and National Insurance 2,500,000
3. War Pensions, etc. 38,250,000
4. National Insurance and Family Allowances 118,800,000
5. National Assistance Board 61,800,000
6. Pensions, etc. (India, Pakistan and Burma) 2,900,000
7. Royal Irish Constabulary Pensions, etc. 400,000
8. Post Office Superannuation and Retired Allowances 10
Total for Civil Estimates £1,298,694,000
REVENUE DEPARTMENTS
1. Customs and Excise 7,000,000
2. Inland Revenue 20,000,000
Total for Revenue Departments £27,000,000
Ministry of Defence 6,210,000
Total for Civil Estimates and Estimates for Revenue Departments together with Estimate for the Ministry of Defence £1,331,904,000

Resolution read a Second time.

Motion made, and Question proposed, That this House doth agree with the Committee in the said Resolution.

Mr. Sydney Silverman (Nelson and Colne)

On a point of order. So that we shall not be confused at the end of the day when the Question is put, may I call your attention, Mr. Speaker, to the wording of the first order on the Order Paper: Report [Civil Estimates and Estimates for Revenue Departments, together with Estimate for the Ministry of Defence, 1961–62 (Vote on Account)]. to which notice has been given to reduce the Vote by £1,000?

May I ask you, Sir, whether when the Question comes to be put, only one Question will be put, so that if there is a Division it will be at least in part for and against the Estimate for the Ministry of Defence?

Mr. Speaker

Yes, I do not see any alternative position under the Standing Order.

Mr. Emrys Hughes (South Ayrshire)

Further to that point of order. In the Vote on Account there is reference to a sum of £6,210,000. Do I understand that the position is that on a debate on housing we are discussing a sum of over £6 million for the Ministry of Defence, and if so, does that mean that the House is precluded completely from discussing or questioning the £6 million, Sir?

Mr. Speaker

That depends on time. I cannot forecast with accuracy the verbal vigour of hon. Members.

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