HC Deb 21 June 1961 vol 642 cc1467-8
26. Mr. Awbery

asked the Minister of Transport if he is aware that a number of British ships are being built abroad because shipowners can obtain credit facilities there that cannot be obtained in Great Britain; and if he will set up a credit organisation for shipbuilding development in the United Kingdom, such as exists in other countries, in order to enable British shipowners to have their ships constructed in United Kingdom shipyards.

Vice-Admiral Hughes Hallett

No case has so far been brought to my notice of a British shipowner placing an order abroad simply because of credit terms. We are, however, discussing with the General Council of British Shipping the question of what assistance, if any, is required in the light, among other things, of the comments in the report of the sub-committee of the Shipbuilding Advisory Committee.

Mr. Awbery

Is the Joint Parliamentary Secretary aware that there is no desire among shipowners for a Government subvention but for credit facilities? Is he also aware that, because of the lack of these facilities, I am told that ships are going to the Continent? Could he not consider some method similar to the Small Dwellings Acquisition Act which would enable shipowners to get credit for a certain number of years?

Vice-Admiral Hughes Hallett

I can assure the hon. Gentleman that we are very open-minded about giving help where needed. If the hon. Gentleman knows of any example of an order going abroad exclusively for credit reasons, I should be grateful if he would give me the information.

Mr. Callaghan

Is the Joint Parliamentary Secretary aware that some of us are beginning to wonder for which country he is Minister of Shipping? Does not he know that there are many ports along the West Coast, especially in South Wales, which are absolutely trouble-free and give the fastest turn-rounds anywhere?

Mr. Speaker

That seems to be quite a different topic.

Mr. Callaghan

I am sorry if I did not convey the point, Mr. Speaker. I wanted to ask the Minister—

Mr. Speaker

Order. If the hon. Gentleman asks a question which is out of order he must bear the consequences.

Mr. P. Williams

My hon. Friend mentioned a discussion with the Chamber of Shipping. When does he expect to come to any conclusions and announce a constructive Government policy on this matter?

Vice-Admiral Hughes Hallett

I am afraid that I can only say—as soon as possible.