HC Deb 12 June 1961 vol 642 cc18-9
30. Mr. Sorensen

asked the Minister of Health what is the approximate proportion of nurses and domestic staff to private fee-paying patients and to ordinary patients respectively in hospitals within the North-East Metropolitan Region compared with other regions; and whether in that region the number of part-time trained nurses has increased during the past two years.

Miss Pitt

I regret that the information requested in the first part of the Question is not available. The Answer to the second part is "Yes".

Mr. Sorensen

Does not the Parliamentary Secretary think it rather necessary to get this information? Could she not initiate investigations to see what information is available to answer not only my request but the request of many other people? On the second point, is she satisfied, seeing that we are now bound to have a very large number of part-time nurses, that everything is done to consider domestic circumstances?

Miss Pitt

Without considerable expenditure and effort, we could not get individual figures of the allocation of nurses to private beds. In fact, I wonder whether it would serve any useful purpose because, in general, the same nurses undertake duties at pay beds and National Health Service beds. I agree that it is important to consider the domestic circumstances of part-time nurses; it is for individual matrons, of course, to try to accommodate them in arranging the rota of duties, and matrons are well aware of that.

Mr. Sorensen

Returning to the hon. Lady's reply to the first part of my Question, could she not at least make one or two sample investigations into the circumstances at particular hospitals? I am well aware of the difficulties, but I feel that there will be a tendency in certain hospitals to give more service to patients in pay beds than to those in National Health Service beds.

Miss Pitt

I will certainly inquire as to whether it is possible to do any sampling, but I would be surprised if the answer showed anything different from what I have suggested.