HC Deb 25 April 1961 vol 639 cc241-5

Resolution reported,

That, for the purposes of any Act of the present Session relating to finance, it is expedient to authorise the payment out of moneys provided by Parliament of any expenses of the Minister of Pensions and National Insurance, or any other Government Department, incurred for the purposes of provisions of that Act relating to the payment of surcharges by employers, including any increase in the sums payable by the said Minister out of such moneys under section nineteen of the Post Office Act, 1961, and to authorise the payment out of the Consolidated Fund—

(a) of such sum (not exceeding two hundred thousand pounds) for the redemption of the Ottoman Guaranteed Loan of 1855 as

may be required to make up any deficiency in the assets available for that purpose in the 1855 Ottoman Guaranteed Loan Investment Account of the National Debt Commissioners;

(b) of the expenses of the Treasury in connection with the redemption of the Loan;

(c) of any increase in the money which may become so payable by virtue of any provision of the said Act applying to the Loan the provisions of section five of the Miscellaneous Financial Provisions Act, 1955 (which relates to unclaimed moneys in respect of Government stock).

Resolution read a Second time.

Motion made, and Question put, That this House doth agree with the Committee in the said Resolution:—

The House divided: Ayes 299, Noes 197.

Division No. 144. AYES 3.50 p.m.
Agnew, Sir Peter Bourne-Arton, A. Cole, Norman
Aitken, W. T. Box, Donald Collard, Richard
Allan, Robert (Paddington, S.) Boyd-Carpenter, Rt. Hon. John Cooper, A. E.
Allason, James Boyle, Sir Edward Cooper-Key, Sir Neill
Amery, Rt. Hon. Julian (Preston, N.) Braine, Bernard Cordeaux, Lt.-Col. J. K.
Arbuthnot, John Brewis, John Cordle, John
Ashton, Sir Hubert Bromley-Davenport, Lt.-Col. Sir Walter Corfield, F. V.
Atkins, Humphrey Brooke, Rt. Hon. Henry Costain, A. P.
Balniel, Lord Brooman-White, R. Coulson, J. M.
Barber, Anthony Browne, Percy (Torrington) Craddock, Sir Beresford
Barlow, Sir John Bryan, Paul Critchley, Julian
Barter, John Buck, Antony Crosthwaite-Eyre, Col. O. E.
Batsford, Brian Bullard, Denys Crowder, F. P.
Beamish, Col. Sir Tufton Bullus, Wing Commander Eric Cunningham, Knox
Bell, Ronald Burden, F. A. Dalkeith, Earl of
Bennett, F. M. (Torquay) Campbell, Sir David (Belfast, S.) Dance, James
Bennett, Dr. Reginald (Gos & Fhm) Campbell, Gordon (Moray & Nairn) d'Avigdor-Goldsmid, Sir Henry
Berkeley, Humphry Carr, Compton (Barons Court) Deedes, W. F.
Bevins, Rt. Hon. Reginald (Toxteth) Carr, Robert (Mitcham) de Ferranti, Basil
Bidgood, John C. Cary, Sir Robert Donaldson, Cmdr. C. E. M.
Biggs-Davison, John Channon, H. P. G. Drayson, G. B.
Bingham, R. M. Chataway, Christopher Duncan, Sir James
Birch, Rt. Hon. Nigel Clark, Henry (Antrim, N.) Duthie, Sir William
Bishop, F. P. Clark, William (Nottingham, S.) Eccles, Rt. Hon. Sir David
Black, Sir Cyril Clarke, Brig. Terence (Portsmth, W.) Elliot, Capt. Walter (Carshalton)
Bossom, Clive Cleaver, Leonard Emery, Peter
Erroll, Rt. Hon. F. J. Langford-Holt, J. Proudfoot, Wilfred
Farey-Jones, F. W. Leather, E. H. C. Pym, Francis
Farr, John Leavey, J. A. Quennell, Miss J. M.
Finlay, Graeme Leburn, Gilmour Redmayne, Rt. Hon. Martin
Fisher, Nigel Legge-Bourke, Sir Harry Rees, Hugh
Fletcher-Cooke, Charles Lewis, Kenneth (Rutland) Rees-Davies, W. R.
Foster, John Lilley, F. J. P. Ridley, Hon. Nicholas
Fraser, Hn. Hugh (Stafford & Stone) Linstead, Sir Hugh Roberts, Sir Peter (Heeley)
Fraser, Ian (Plymouth, Sutton) Litchfield, Capt. John Robertson, Sir David
Freeth, Denzil Lloyd, Rt. Hn. Geoffrey (Sut'nC'dfield) Robson Brown, Sir William
Galbraith, Hon. T. G. D. Lloyd, Rt. Hon. Selwyn (Wirral) Rodgers, John (Sevenoaks)
Gammans, Lady Longbottom, Charles Roots, William
Gardner, Edward Longden, Gilbert Ropner, Col. Sir Leonard
George, J. C. (Pollok) Loveys, Walter H. Royle, Anthony (Richmond, Surrey)
Gibson-Watt, David Low, Rt. Hon. Sir Toby Seymour, Leslie
Glover, Sir Douglas Lucas, Sir Jocelyn Sharples, Richard
Glyn, Dr. Alan (Clapham) Lucas-Tooth, Sir Hugh Shaw, M.
Glyn, Sir Richard (Dorset, N.) McAdden, Stephen Simon, Rt. Hon. Sir Jocelyn
Goodhart, Philip McArthur, Ian Skeet, T. H. H.
Goodhew, Victor Maclay, Rt. Hon. John Smith, Dudley (Br'ntf'rd & Chiswick)
Gough, Frederick Maclean, Sir Fitzroy(Bute&N. Ayrs.) Smithers, Peter
Gower, Raymond McLean, Neil (Inverness) Smyth, Brig. Sir John (Norwood)
Grant, Rt. Hon. William Macleod, Rt. Hn. Iain (Enfield, W.) Soames, Rt. Hon. Christopher
Green, Alan MacLeod, John (Ross & Cromarty) Spearman, Sir Alexander
Gresham Cooke, R. McMaster, Stanley R. Speir, Rupert
Grimston, Sir Robert Macmillan, Rt. Hn. Harold(Bromley) Stanley, Hon. Richard
Grosvenor, Lt.-Col. R. G. Macpherson, Niall (Dumfries) Stevens, Geoffrey
Gurden, Harold Madden, Martin Steward, Harold (Stockport, S.)
Hall, John (Wycombe) MagInnis, John E. Storey, Sir Samuel
Hamilton, Michael (Wellingborough) Manningham-Buller, Rt. Hn. Sir R. Studholme, Sir Henry
Hare, Rt. Hon. John Markham, Major Sir Frank Summers, Sir Spencer (Aylesbury)
Harris, Frederic (Croydon, N. W.) Marlowe, Anthony Sumner, Donald (Orpington)
Harrison, Brian (Maldon) Marples, Rt. Hon. Ernest Talbot, John E.
Harvey, Sir Arthur Vere (Macclesf'd) Marshall, Douglas Tapsell, Peter
Harvie Anderson, Miss Marten, Neil Taylor, Sir Charles (Eastbourne)
Hastings, Stephen Matthews, Gordon (Meriden) Taylor, Edwin (Bolton, E.)
Hay, John Maudling, Rt. Hon. Reginald Taylor, W. J. (Bradford, N.)
Heald, Rt. Hon. Sir Lionel Mawby, Ray Teeling, William
Henderson, John (Cathoart) Maxwell-Hyslop, R. J. Temple, John M.
Henderson-Stewart, Sir James Maydon, Lt.-Cmdr. S. L. C. Thatcher, Mrs. Margaret
Hendry, Forbes Mills, Stratton Thomas, Leslie (Canterbury)
Hiley, Joseph Montgomery, Fergus Thomas, Peter (Conway)
Hill, Dr. Rt. Hon. Charles (Luton) Moore, Sir Thomas (Ayr) Thompson, Kenneth (Walton)
Hill, Mrs. Eveline (Wythenshawe) More, Jasper (Ludlow) Thorneycroft, Rt. Hon. Peter
Hill, J. E. B. (S. Norfolk) Morgan, William Thornton-Kemsley, Sir Colin
Hinchingbrooke, Viscount Morrison, John Tiley, Arthur (Bradford, W.)
Hirst, Geoffrey Mott-Radclyffe, Sir Charles Tilney, John (Wavertree)
Hocking, Philip N. Nabarro, Gerald Turner, Colin
Holland, Philip Nicholls, Sir Harmar Turton, Rt. Hon. R. H.
Hollingworth, John Nicholson, Sir Godfrey van Straubenzee, W. R.
Hope, Rt. Hon. Lord John Noble, Michael Vane, W. M. F.
Hopkins, Alan Nugent, Sir Richard Vaughan-Morgan, Sir John
Hornsby-Smith, Rt. Hon. Patricia Oakshott, Sir Hendrie Vickers, Miss Joan
Howard, Hon. G. R. (St. Ives) Ormsby Gore, Rt. Hon. D. Vosper, Rt. Hon. Dennis
Howard, John (Southampton, Test) Orr, Capt. L. P. S. Wakefield, Sir Wavell (St. M'lebone)
Hughes Hallett, Vice-Admiral John Orr-Ewing, C. Ian Walder, David
Hughes-Young, Michael Osborne, Cyril (Louth) Walker, Peter
Hulbert, Sir Norman Page, John (Harrow, West) Walker-Smith, Rt. Hon, Sir Derek
Hurd, Sir Anthony Page, Graham (Crosby) Watkinson, Rt. Hon. Harold
Hutchison, Michael Clark Pannell, Norman (Kirkdale) Watts, James
Iremonger, T. L. Partridge, E. Wells, John (Maidstone)
Irvine, Bryant Godman (Rye) Pearson, Frank (Clitheroe) Whitelaw, William
Jackson, John Percival, Ian Williams, Dudley (Exeter)
Jenkins, Robert (Dulwich) Peyton, John Williams, Paul (Sunderland, S.)
Jennings, J. C. Pickthorn, Sir Kenneth Wills, Sir Gerald (Bridgwater)
Johnson, Dr. Donald (Carlisle) Pike, Miss Mervyn Wise, A. R.
Johnson, Eric (Blackley) Pilkington, Sir Richard Wolrige-Gordon, Patrick
Johnson Smith, Geoffrey Pitman, I. J. Woodnutt, Mark
Jones, Rt. Hn. Aubrey (Hall Green) Pitt, Miss Edith Woollam, John
Joseph, Sir Keith Pott, Percivall Worsley, Marcus
Kaberry, Sir Donald Powell, Rt. Hon. J. Enoch Yates, William (The Wrekin)
Kerans, Cdr. J. S. Price, David (Eastleigh)
Kerr, Sir Hamilton Price, H. A. (Lewisham, W.) TELLERS FOR THE AYES:
Kimball, Marcus Prior, J. M. L. Mr. Edward Wakefield and
Kitson, Timothy Profumo, Rt. Hon. John Colonel J. H. Harrison.
NOES
Abse, Leo Baxter, William (Stirlingshire, W.) Bowen, Roderic (Cardigan)
Ainsley, William Benson, Sir George Bowles, Frank
Allaun, Frank (Salford, E.) Blackburn, F. Boyden, James
Allen, Scholefield (Crewe) Blyton, William Braddock, Mrs. E. M.
Bacon, Miss Alice Boardman, H. Brockway, A. Fenner
Baird, John Bowden, Herbert W. (Leics, S. W.) Broughton, Dr. A. D. D.
Brown, Thomas (Ince) Hughes, Hector (Aberdeen, N.) Rankin, John
Butter, Mrs. Joyce (Wood Green) Hunter, A. E. Redhead, E, C.
Callaghan, James Hynd, H. (Accrington) Reid, William
Castle, Mrs. Barbara Jay, Rt. Hon. Douglas Rhodes, H.
Chapman, Donald Jeger, George Roberts, Albert (Normanton)
Chetwynd, George Johnson, Carol (Lewisham, s.) Roberts, Goronwy (Caernarvon)
Collick, Percy Jones, Rt. Hn. A. Creech(Wakefield) Robertson, J. (Paisley)
Craddock, George (Bradford, S.) Jones, Dan (Burnley) Robinson, Kenneth (St. Pancras, N.)
Cronin, John Jones, J. Idwal (Wrexham) Ross, William
Crossman, R. H. S. Jones, T. W. (Merioneth) Shinwell, Rt. Hon. E.
Cullen, Mrs. Alice Kelley, Richard Silverman, Julius (Aston)
Darling, George Kenyon, Clifford Silverman, Sydney (Nelson)
Davies, G. Elfed (Rhondda, E.) Key, Rt. Hon. C. W. Skeffington, Arthur
Davies, Harold (Leek) Lawson, George Slater, Mrs. Harriet (Stoke, N.)
Davies, Ifor (Gower) Ledger, Ron Slater, Joseph (Sedgefield)
Davies, S. O. (Merthyr) Lee, Frederick (Newton) Small, William
Deer, George Lever, Harold (Cheetham) Smith, Ellis (Stoke, S.)
de Freitas, Geoffrey Lever, L. M. (Ardwick) Snow, Julian
Dempsey, James Lewis, Arthur (West Ham, N.) Sorensen, R. W.
Diamond, John Lipton, Marcus Soskice, Rt. Hon. Sir Frank
Dodds, Norman Logan, David Spriggs, Leslie
Donnelly, Desmond Loughlin, Charles Steele, Thomas
Dugdale, Rt. Hon. John McCann, John Stonehouse, John
Ede, Rt. Hon. C. MacColl, James Stones, William
Edwards, Rt. Hon. Ness (Caerphilly) McKay, John (Wallsend) Strauss, Rt. Hn. G. R. (Vauxhall)
Edwards, Walter (Stepney) MacPherson, Malcolm (Stirling) Stross, Dr. Barnett(Stoke-on-Trent, C.)
Evans, Albert Mallalieu, E. L. (Brigg) Swain, Thomas
Finch, Harold Manuel, A. C. Swingler, Stephen
Fletcher, Eric Mapp, Charles Sylvester, George
Foot, Michael (Ebbw Vale) Marquand, Rt. Hon, H. A. Symonds, J. B.
Forman, J. C. Marsh, Richard Taylor, Bernard (Mansfield)
Fraser, Thomas (Hamilton) Mason, Roy Taylor, John (West Lothian)
Gaitskell, Rt. Hon. Hugh Mayhew, Christopher Thomas, Iorwerth (Rhondda, W.)
Galpern, Sir Myer Mellish, R. J. Thompson, Dr. Alan (Dunfermline)
George, Lady MeganLloyd(Crmrthn) Mendelson, J. J. Thomson, G. M. (Dundee, E.)
Ginsburg, David Milne, Edward J. Thornton, Ernest
Gooch, E. G. Mitchison, G. R. Tomney, Frank
Gordon Walker, Rt. Hon. P. C. Moody, A. S. Ungoed-Thomas, Sir Lynn
Gourlay, Harry Morris, John Wade, Donald
Grey, Charles Mort, D. L. Wainwright, Edwin
Griffiths, Rt. Hon. James (Llanelly) Moyle, Arthur Warbey, William
Griffiths, W. (Exchange) Mulley, Frederick Watkins, Tudor
Grimond, J. Neal, Harold Weitzman, David
Gunter, Ray Oliver, G. H. Wells, Percy (Faversham)
Hale, Leslie (Oldham, W.) Oswald, Thomas Wells, William (Walsall, N.)
Hamilton, William (West Fife) Padley, W. E. White, Mrs. Eirene
Hannan, William Paget, R. T. Wigg, George
Hart, Mrs. Judith Panned, Charles (Leeds, W.) Wilcock, Group Capt. C. A. B.
Healey, Denis Pargiter, G. A. Willey, Frederick
Herbison, Miss Margaret Parker, John Williams, D. J. (Neath)
Hewitson, Capt. M. Parkin, B. T. Williams, Ll. (Abertillery)
Hill, J. (Midlothian) Pearson, Arthur (Pontypridd) Williams, T. W. (Warrington)
Hilton, A. V. Peart, Frederick Williams, W. R. (Openshaw)
Holman, Percy Pentland, Norman Willis, E. G. (Edinburgh, E.)
Holt, Arthur Plummer, Sir Leslie Wilson, Rt. Hon. Harold (Huyton)
Houghton, Douglas Prentice, R. E. Woodburn, Rt. Hon. A.
Howell, Charles A. (B'ham, Perry Bar) Probert, Arthur Woof, Robert
Howell, Denis (B'ham, Small Heath) Proctor, W. T. Yates, Victor (Ladywood)
Hoy, James H. Pursey, Cmdr. Harry
Hughes, Cledwyn (Anglesey) Randall, Harry TELLERS FOR THE NOES:
Hughes, Emrys (S. Ayrshire) Mr. Short and Mr. Irving.