HC Deb 27 October 1960 vol 627 cc2552-3
7. Captain Pilkington

asked the Minister of Education when he received the last request from the National Association of Schoolmasters for recognition on the Burnham Committee.

Sir D. Eccles

In January last, when I received a deputation from the Association.

Captain Pilkington

Is not the size of this association a very significant factor? Will my right hon. Friend do what he can to use his determined diplomacy to try to get agreement with all concerned in this matter?

Sir D. Eccles

It is not the size of the association which qualifies it for inclusion on the Committee. It is whether it represents a type of school which is not on the Committee. The reasons for thinking that all types of schools were already represented were given on 14th April last in an Adjournment debate, and those reasons appear to me to hold good today.

Miss Herbison

Is the Minister aware that the sole purpose of this organisation is to oppose the rate for the job? Will he continue to ensure that the Government do not give it representation on this Committee or any other one?

Captain Pilkington

Is my right hon. Friend aware that the hon. Lady is quite mistaken? She should look up the facts.

Miss Herbison

I know the facts.

Sir D. Eccles

The association has had that purpose in the past. It often gives advice on aspects of education other than simply pay.

Mr. John Hall

Is my right hon. Friend aware that I am assured by representatives of the association that it no longer has that particular purpose in mind?