HC Deb 23 February 1960 vol 618 cc180-3
36. Miss Herbison

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is the extent of teacher shortage in primary, junior secondary, and senior secondary schools in Lanarkshire.

Mr. Maclay

Separate figures for different types of school are not available, but I shall, with permission, circulate in the OFFICIAL REPORT a table showing the shortage according to the qualifications of the teachers required.

Miss Herbison

Surely it would be a simple thing to get separate figures for each category? Surely each education authority knows the number that it is short in the primary schools and the junior secondary and senior secondary schools? Surely the Secretary of State could ask for those figures?

LANARKSHIRE EDUCATION AUTHORITY
Qualification Number of Certificated Teachers required on 5th October, 1959 To replace teachers insufficiently qualified for the posts they hold Number from Col. 5 available for redistribution to other posts for which they are qualified Total Net Shortage
To fill Vacant Posts To replace uncertificated teachers To replace retired Teachers (re-employed)
Col. (1) Col. (2) Col. (3) Col. (4) Col. (5) Col. (6) Cols. (2)-(5) less Col. (6)
Chapter IV (Primary) 13 54 10 5 72
Chapter IV with article 39 (sub-specialist) 2 69 1 12 9 75
Chapter V (specialist, academic subjects) 11 9 4 21 21 24
Chapter VI (specialist, non-academic subjects) 21 130 2 4 2 155
TOTAL 47 262 17 37 37 326
37. Miss Herbison

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many uncertificated teachers are employed in primary, junior secondary, and senior secondary schools in Lanarkshire.

Mr. Maclay

At the last count on 5th October, the numbers were 65, 133 and 18 respectively, plus 64 others, most of whom are visiting teachers of practical subjects.

Mr. Maclay

As I said, the figures are not at present available. I will examine carefully what the hon. Lady has said.

Miss Herbison

The right hon. Gentleman has said that he will circulate these figures. Is he satisfied with them? Does not he realise that many people are seriously worried about this teacher shortage among the big education authorities like Lanarkshire and Glasgow? What does the right hon. Gentleman propose to do to help such authorities?

Mr. Maclay

I am also concerned about the shortage of teachers, but I am glad to say that the number of students undergoing teacher training has increased in recent years to more than ever before.

Following is the table:

Miss Herbison

Does the Secretary of State realise that the figures he has given show that the junior secondary schools are the worst off in this respect? Does he also realise that children in junior secondary schools leave at the age of 15 and have little chance after that of any kind of education? Surely he should do something to help those children, who are the under-privileged, to obtain better teachers for the work which they should be doing?

Mr. Maclay

As I indicated in my previous answer, we are alive to the problem; and it is comforting to know that the steps which have been taken are showing some result in the form of increased recruitment.