HC Deb 04 February 1959 vol 599 c359
1. Mr. Frank Allaun

asked the Minister of Transport and Civil Aviation if he is aware that, despite complaints made eighteen months ago, second-class passengers on long-distance non-stop trains between Manchester and London and on other routes throughout the country are having to stand in the corridors while first-class seats remain vacant; and if he will reconsider giving the British Transport Commission a general direction to change this practice.

The Joint Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Transport and Civil Aviation (Mr. G. R. H. Nugent)

This is a matter of day-to-day management for the British Transport Commission, and is not suitable for a general direction.

Mr. Allaun

Does the Minister remember telling me that if the ticket collector on a train found it grossly overcrowded he had a certain latitude of action? Will he therefore ask the Commission to tell the ticket collectors to use this discretion, and to seat standing passengers? This seems to be a sensible solution to the whole problem.

Mr. Nugent

My right hon. Friend did tell the House that ticket collectors have a certain discretion in the matter, but the use of it is really a matter for the commercial judgment of the Transport Commission, so that its service is attractive on the one hand and not extravagant on the other. I think that the Commission has been fairly successful in the past year, considering the improvement in the traffic receipts for passengers.

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