HC Deb 09 April 1959 vol 603 cc353-4
16. Mr. Brockway

asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies why he has agreed to proposed legislation by the Government of Nyasaland for further restrictions on African activities and heavier penalties, including the flogging of children.

Mr. Lennox-Boyd

The Bills to which the hon. Gentleman refers have not yet been passed by the Legislative Council in Nyasaland; until they are, it does not fall to me to consider them. As regards provisions for corporal punishment for children, I refer to my reply to the hon. Member's Question on 7th April.

Mr. Brockway

When the time comes for the Minister to consider the Bills, may I ask him to bear in mind that they repudiate all the principles of British justice? There are three Bills. Is it not the case that the first makes a punishable offence a possible offence and not an actual offence? Is it not the case that the second Bill—

Mr. Speaker

Order. This is really an abuse of the right to ask supplementary questions. We have had a lot of it today. Hon. Members have been seizing the opportunity to make speeches. I wish the hon. Member would ask a question.

Mr. Brockway

Mr. Speaker, I am submitting to the right hon. Gentleman— [HON. MEMBERS: " Speech."] I am asking a question of the right hon. Gentleman about legislation which repudiates the principles of British justice. I shall be content if I may deal with only the third point. [Interruption.] I suggest that I am putting a point to you, Mr. Speaker — [ZION. MEMBERS: " No."] — and that I am only asking a question. May I ask the right hon. Gentleman whether the third of those measures makes a child of seven, who is guilty of an offence other than one punishable by death, liable to six rattan cane strokes and a child of 12 liable to twelve strokes, whether this can be done in public, and whether not even a medical officer need be present?

Mr. Lennox-Boyd

There is no legislation as yet on which I can possibly comment. When that legislation has been received, I shall make up my mind about what I shall do.