HC Deb 13 March 1958 vol 584 cc732-5

That a sum, not exceeding £469,975 15s. 0d., be granted to Her Majesty, to make good excesses on the grants for Navy Services for the year ended on the 31st day of March, 1957.

SCHEDULE
No. of Vote Navy Services, 1956–57 Vote DEFICITS SURPLUSES
Excesses of Actual over Estimated Gross Expenditure Deficiencies of Actual as compared with Estimated Receipts Surpluses of Estimated over Actual Gross Expenditure Surpluses of Actual as compared with Estimated Receipts
£ s. d. £ s. d. £ s. d. £ s. d.
1 Pay, &c, of the Royal Navy and Royal Marines — — 1,027,815 19 10 158,815 13 7
2 Victualling and Clothing for the Navy 676,261 5 4 — — 478,677 1 5
3 Medical Establishments and Services 8,049 11 6 — — 12,168 19 8
4 Civilians employed on Fleet Services 28,511 15 3 — — 5,168 4 2
5 Educational Services — — 45,875 3 8 10,455 0 7
6 Scientific Services — — 942,573 17 6 24,991 19 5
7 Royal Naval Reserves — — 38,376 3 5 927 3 8
8 Shipbuilding, Repairs, Maintenance, &c:
Section I.—Personnel — 168,125 6 8 46,525 9 5 —
Section II.—Matériel 802,479 4 11 — — 484,426 18 3
Section III.—Contract Work 1,143,861 9 8 1,278,379 13 5 — —
9 Naval Armaments — 366,053 17 9 512,657 12 7 —
10 Works, Buildings and Repairs at Home and Abroad — — 268,901 2 3 4,108 15 9
11 Miscellaneous Effective Services — 318,720 14 8 63,666 17 11 —
12 Admiralty Office — — 38,115 6 1 17,433 4 4
13 Non-Effective Services — — 99,454 16 8 54,277 11 7
14 Merchant Shipbuilding and Repair 2,100 16 3 — — —
15 Additional Married Quarters. 9,037 13 8 — — —
— Balances Irrecoverable and Claims Abandoned 3,807 7 8 — — —
2,674,109 4 3 2,131,279 12 6 3,083,962 9 4 1,251,450 12 5
Excess Vote — — 469,975 15 0 —
2,674,109 4 3 2,131,279 12 6 3,553,938 4 4 1,251,450 12 5
£4,805,388 16 9 £4,805,388 16 9

Question put and agreed to.

Major Legge-Bourke

On a point of order, Sir Charles. May I go back to the point I was going to put a few moments ago? The procedure which has been followed on the Service Estimates this year is a procedure which I understand to be experimental. Some of us who would wish to take a great interest in the last of the Service Estimates which have been put before us have felt ourselves considerably restricted. We feel that this year—it may not always be so in future—the Air Estimates have been of particular interest, but, as a result of the procedure we have followed, it has been virtually impossible to deal with more than two Votes out of a selected list of four or five.

All I wish to place on record, as a point of order if I may, is the hope that reconsideration will be given to this matter in future so that we are not, on the back benches, restricted as we have been this year.

Sir A. V. Harvey

Further to that point of order—

The Chairman

It is not a point of order. But I will see that note is taken of what the hon. and gallant Member has said. Did the hon. Member for Macclesfield (Sir A. V. Harvey) wish to raise the same point.

Sir A. V. Harvey

The same point, Sir Charles. If I may elaborate what my hon. and gallant Friend the Member for the Isle of Ely (Major Legge-Bourke) has said, we have had the three Services today commencing after Questions, and the Air Votes came on tonight at a quarter past eight.

The Chairman

This is really not a point of order at all.

Sir A. V. Harvey

May I as a back bencher put on record that we have had only one hour and a quarter to discuss the Air Votes, whereas the other two Services had almost double that time? It is surely right that the Air Force Votes should have had more than that.

The Chairman

I can do nothing about that.

Resolutions to be reported.

Report to be received Tomorrow Committee to sit again Tomorrow.