§ 30. Mr. Zilliacus
asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether he will urge at the Copenhagen Foreign Ministers' Conference that, in order to make agreement at the summit talks possible, the Western Powers should now drop their demand that United Germany must be free to enter the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation, and instead signify their agreement to some plan for unifying Germany within an all-European treaty and the United Nations, but outside the rival alliances, with prohibition of nuclear weapons in, and withdrawal of foreign forces from, the territories of Germany, Poland and Hungary, accompanied by appropriate forms of supervision.
§ Mr. Zilliacus
Does the right hon. and learned Gentleman's reply mean that the Government cling to their proposal that a united Germany should be free to enter N.A.T.O.? Does not the Foreign Secretary recognise that, by clinging to that policy they will make themselves responsible for wrecking the summit talks before they have started?
§ Mr. Bevan
Is not it a fact that if a statement is made that Western Germany, or a united Germany, must be free 953 to enter into any foreign alliances, this in itself would be an inhibition on any policy of disengagement, including Germany, in Europe? Is not it undesirable to lay that down beforehand as a pre-condition of the conference?
§ Mr. D. Price
Is my right hon. and learned Friend aware that if he took up any other position he would, in fact, be committing this country to going against Article 103 of the United Nations Charter regarding interfering with the freedom of a sovereign Government to decide its own affairs?
§ 31. Mr. Zilliacus
asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether he will, at the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation Conference of Foreign Ministers, oppose General Norstad's demand that the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation's ground forces be raised from 15 to 30 divisions and that Western Germany should be granted nuclear weapons.
§ Mr. Selwyn Lloyd
I do not understand the first part of the hon. Gentleman's Question. General Norstad's estimate of his requirements for ground forces has not been increased lately.
In answer to the second part of the Question I would refer the hon. Member to the reply given by my right hon. and gallant Friend, the Minister of State on 21st April.
§ Mr. Zilliacus
Is not the right hon. and learned Gentleman aware that General Norstad has publicly stated that N.A.T.O. ground forces should be raised to 30 divisions from the existing 15? Will he make it clear that, on grounds of expense, if for no other reason, the Government will not accept that? Furthermore, will not the granting of nuclear weapons to Germany now prejudice summit talks and make negotiation difficult?