HC Deb 04 March 1957 vol 566 cc2-3
5. Mr. Simmons

asked the Minister of Pensions and National Insurance why the differential between the elderly childless war widow and the civilian widow has been wiped out; and if he will consider granting them a rent supplement to redress the balance.

Mr. Boyd-Carpenter

The hon. Member is mistaken; the differential has not been wiped out. As regards rent allowance, I would refer the hon. Member to the Answer which I gave him on 3rd December.

Mr. Simmons

I am sorry if my Question is not quite clear. I am referring to the differentials between the widows who apply to the National Assistance Board for relief and the question of the rent allowance, and asking whether there could not be a disregard of the first 10s. 6d. of pension or a rent allowance to bring up the difference which occurs as a result of the application for National Assistance?

Mr. Boyd-Carpenter

I think I understand the hon. Gentleman's supplementary question. If one takes the average rent figure for a widow on top of the National Assistance scales for persons living alone, there is a comparatively small gap between the scale rate for assistance plus that and the war widow's pension. There is still a small lead, on average, for the war widow. Therefore, my original Answer, which relates to the three general rates for widows—National Insurance, industrial injuries and war pension—is still accurate, though, I agree, by a smaller margin.

Mr. Simmons

Would the Minister pursue the matter with S.S.A.F.A., which has already been in touch with his Department, and give sympathetic consideration to any representations that organisation may make?

Mr. Boyd-Carpenter

The hon. Member is quite right. S.S.A.F.A. has been in touch with me, and, although for the reasons I gave the hon Member, I doubt whether the remedy proposed here is the right one, I, like all hon. Members, pay a great deal of attention to what S.S.A.F.A. says.