HC Deb 22 March 1956 vol 550 cc1538-43

(I) If the Minister is satisfied, on application made to him within such time and in such manner as may be prescribed by rules under this section by a teacher employed in contributory service—

  1. (a) that the teacher, when first so employed, was between such ages as may be so prescribed; and
  2. (b) that before he was first so employed the teacher was engaged in other employment providing experience of value to him as a teacher, the Minister may direct that, subject to the payment by the teacher of additional contributions in accordance with this section, any period of that other employment, not exceeding five years, shall be treated for the purpose of calculating the amount of any allowance or gratuity payable to or in respect of the teacher under the principal Act as if it were a period of contributory service.

(2) The additional contributions to be paid by a teacher in respect of whom directions are given under this section shall be of such amount, and shall be payable at such times and in such manner, as may be prescribed by rules under this section; and the amount so prescribed in relation to teachers of any class shall be such as appears to the Minister, according to tables to be prepared from time to time by the Government Actuary, to be sufficient to support the increase attributable to this section in the amount of any allowances or gratuities payable to them under the principal Act.

(3) The Minister may, with the consent of the Treasury, make rules for prescribing anything to be prescribed by rules under this section; and such rules may apply in relation to the additional contributions payable under this section any provisions of the principal Act or of rules made thereunder with respect to contributions payable by teachers under that Act (including provisions with respect to the return of contributions to teachers who do not qualify for allowances or gratuities) subject to such modifications as may be prescribed by the rules.

(4) Nothing in this section shall be construed as authorising any period of employment to be treated as a period of contributory service for the purpose of determining whether a teacher is qualified for the grant of an allowance or gratuity under the principal Act.

(5) For the purposes of paragraph (b) of subsection (1) of this section the expression "employment" does not include service undertaken by virtue of an enlistment notice or a training notice served under Pant 1 of the National Service Act, 1948, or work or training in pursuance of an order made or

Division No. 129.] AYES [6.56 p.m.
Agnew, Cmdr. P. G. Duthie, W. S. Hutchison, Eir Ian Clark(E'b'gh, W.)
Aitken, W. T. Eccles, Rt. Hon. Sir David Hutchison, Sir James (Scotstoun)
Allan, R. A. (Paddington, S.) Eden, J. B. (Bournemouth, West) Hylton-Foster, Sir H. B. H.
Amery, Julian (Preston, N.) Elliot, Rt. Hon. W. E. Iremonger, T. L.
Armstrong, C. W. Emmet, Hon. Mrs. Evelyn Irvine, Bryant Godman (Rye)
Ashton, H. Farey-Jones, F. W. Jenkins, Robert (Dulwich)
Atkins, H. E. Fell, A. Jennings, Sir Roland (Hallam)
Baldock, Lt.-Cmdr. J. M. Finlay, Graeme Johnson, Dr. Donald (Carlisle)
Baldwin, A. E. Fisher, Nigel Johnson, Eric (Blackley)
Balniel, Lord Fleetwood-Hesketh, R. F. Johnson, Howard (Kemptown)
Barber, Anthony Fletcher-Cooke, C. Joseph, Sir Keith
Barlow, Sir John Fraser, Hon. Hugh (Stone) Kaberry, D.
Barter, John Fraser, Sir Ian (M'cmbe & Lonsdale) Keegan, D.
Bell, Ronald (Bucks, S.) Freeth, D. K. Kerby, Capt. H. B.
Bennett, Dr. Reginald Galbraith, Hon. T. G. D. Kerr, H. W.
Bevins, J. R. (Toxteth) Garner-Evans, E. H. Kershaw, J. A.
Bidgood, J. C. George, J. C. (Pollok) Kirk, P. M.
Birch, Rt. Hon. Nigel Gibson-Watt, D. Lagden, G. W.
Bishop, F. P. Glover, D. Lambert, Hon. G.
Black, C. W. Godber, J. B. Lambton, Viscount
Body, R. F. Gomme-Duncan, Col. Sir Alan Lancaster, Col. C. G.
Boyd-Carpenter, Rt. Hon. J. A. Cough, C. F. H. Langford-Holt, J. A.
Boyle, Sir Edward Gower, H. R. Leavey, J. A.
Braithwaite, Sir Albert (Harrow, W.) Graham, Sir Fergus Leburn, W. G.
Browne, J. Nixon (Craigton) Grant, W. (Woodside) Legge-Bourke, Maj. E. A. H.
Bryan, P. Grant-Ferris, Wg Cdr. R. (Nantwich) Legh, Hon. Peter (Petersfield)
Buchan-Hepburn, Rt. Hon. P. C. T. Green, A. Lindsay, Hon. James (Devon, N.)
Bullus, Wing Commander E. E. Grimston, Hon. John (St. Albans) Lindsay, Martin (Solihull)
Burden, F. F. A. Grimston, Sir Robert (Westbury) Linstead, Sir H. N.
Butcher, Sir Herbert Grosvenor, Lt.-Col. R. G. Lloyd, Maj. Sir Guy (Renfrew, E.)
Butler, Rt.Hn. R.A.(Saffron Walden) Gurden, Harold Lloyd-George, Maj. Rt. Hon. G.
Campbell, Sir David Harris, Frederic (Croydon, N.W.) Lucas, P. B.(Brentford & Chiswick)
Cary, Sir Robert Harrison, A. B. E. (Maldon) Lucas-Tooth, Sir Hugh
Channon, H. Harvey, Air Cdre. A. V. (Macclesfd) McAdden, S. J.
Chichester-Clark, R. Harvey, Ian (Harrow, E.) Macdonald, Sir Peter
Clarke, Brig. Terence (Portsmth, W.) Harvie-Watt, Sir George Mackie, J. H. (Galloway)
Cooper-Key, E. M. Hay, John McLaughlin, Mrs. P.
Cordeaux, Lt.-Col. J. K. Heald, Rt. Hon. Sir Lionel Maclay, Rt. Hon. John
Corfield, Capt. F. V. Heath, Rt. Hon. E. R. G. Maclean, Fitzroy (Lancaster)
Craddock, Beresford (Spelthorne) Hicks-Beach, Maj. W. W. MacLeod, John (Ross & Cromarty)
Crosthwaite-Eyre, Col. O. E. Hill, Rt. Hon. Charles (Luton) Maddan, Martin
Crouch, R. F. Hill, Mrs. E. (Wythenshawe) Maitland, Cdr. J.F.W.(Horncastle)
Crowder, Petre (Ruislip—Northwood) Hill, John (S. Norfolk) Maitland, Hon. Patrick (Lanark)
Cunningham, Knox Hirst, Geoffrey Markham, Major Sir Frank
Currie, G. B. H. Holland-Martin, C. J. Marples, A. E.
Dance, J. C. G. Hope, Lord John Mathew, R.
D'Avigdor-Goldsmid, Sir Henry Hornsby-Smith, Miss M. P. Mawby, R. L.
Deedes, W. F. Horobin, Sir Ian Maydon, Lt.-Comdr. S. L. C.
Digby, Simon Wingfield Horsbrugh, Rt. Hon. Dame Florence Medlicott, Sir Frank
Dodds-Parker, A. D. Howard, Hon. Greville (St. Ives) Molson, A. H. E.
Donaldson, Cmdr. C. E. McA. Howard, John (Test) Moore, Sir Thomas
Drayson, G. B. Hudson, Sir Austin (Lewisham, N.) Nabarro, G. D. N,
du Cann, E. D. L. Hughes, Hallett, Vice-Admiral J. Nairn, D. L. S.
Dugdale, Rt. Hn. Sir T. (Richmond) Hughes-Young, M. H. c. Neave, Airey
Duncan, Capt. J. A. L. Hulbert, Sir Norman Nicholls, Harmar

direction given under the said Part I in respect of a conditionally registered conscientious objector.—[Sir D. Eccles.]

Brought up and read the Second time.

Mr. M. Stewart

I beg to move, as an Amendment to the proposed Clause, to leave out subsection (5).

This is a manuscript Amendment of which I have given you notice, Sir Charles, and which in substance the Committee has already had an opportunity of discussing.

Question put, That the words proposed to be left out stand part of the proposed Clause:—

The Committee divided: Noes 203.

Nicholson, Godfrey (Farnham) Ridsdale, J. E. Thomas, Leslie (Canterbury)
Nicolson, N. (B'n'm'th, E. & Chr'ch) Rippon, A. G. F. Thomas, P. J. M. (Conway)
Nield, Basil (Chester) Roberts, Sir Peer (Healey) Tiley, A. (Bradford, W.)
Nugent, G. R. H. Robertson, Sir David Touche, Sir Cordon
Oakshott, H. D. Robinson, Sir Roland (Blackpool, S.) Turner, H. F. L.
O'Neill, Hn. Phelim (Co. Antrim, N.) Robson-Brown, W. Turton, Rt. Hon. R. H.
Orr, Capt. L. P. S. Rodgers, John (Sevenoaks) Vane, W. M. F
Orr-Ewing, Charles Ian (Hendon, N.) Roper, Sir Harold Vaughan-Morgan, J. K.
Osborne, C. Russell, R. S. Vosper, D. F.
Page, R. G. Sandys, Rt. Hon. D. Wakefield, Edward (Derbyshire, W.)
Pannell, N. A. (Kirkdale) Schofield, Lt.-Col. W. Walker-Smith, D. C.
Partridge, E. Scott-Miller, Cmdr. R. Wall, Major Patrick
Peyton, J. W. W. Sharples, R. C. Ward, Hon. George (Worcester)
Pilkington, Capt. R. A. Shepherd, William Ward, Dame Irene (Tynemouth)
Pitman, I. J. Smithers, Peter (Winchester) Waterhouse, Capt. Rt. Hon. C.
Pitt, Miss E. M. Soames, Capt. C. Webbe, Sir H.
Pott, H. P. Spearman, A. C. M. Whitelaw, W.S.I.(Penrith & Border)
Powell, J. Enoch Stanley, Capt. Hon. Richard Williams, Paul (Sunderland, S.)
Price, David (Eastleigh) Stevens, Geoffrey Williams, R. Dudley (Exeter)
Price, Henry (Lewisham, W.) Steward, Harold (Stockport, S.) Wills, G. (Bridgwater)
Prior-Palmer, Brig. O. L. Steward, Sir William (Woolwich, W.) Wilson, Geoffrey (Truro)
Raikes, Sir Victor Stewart, Henderson (Fife, E.) Wood, Hon. R.
Ramsden, J. E. Stoddart-Scott, Col. M. Woollam, John Victor
Rawlinson, Peter Studholme, H. G. Yates, William (The Wrekin)
Redmayne, M. Summers, G. S. (Aylesbury)
Rees-Davies, W. R. Sumner, W. D. M. (Orpington) TELLERS FOR THE AYES:
Remnant, Hon. P. Taylor, William (Bradford, N.) Mr. R. Thompson and
Renton, D. L. M. Teeling, W. Colonel J. H. Harrison.
NOES
Ainsley, J. W. Edwards, Robert (Bilston) Lever, Leslie (Ardwick)
Allaun, Frank (Salford, E.) Edwards, W. J. (Stepney) Lewis, Arthur
Allen, Arthur (Bosworth) Evans, Albert (Islington, S.W.) Lipton, Lt.-Col. M.
Anderson, Frank Evans, Edward (Lowestoft) Mabon, Dr. J. Dickson
Awbery, S. S. Fernyhough, E. MacColl, J. E.
Bacon, Miss Alice Fienburgh, W. McGhee, H. G.
Bartley, P. Finch, H. J. McInnes, J.
Bellenger, Rt. Hon. F. J. Fletcher, Eric McKay, John (Wallsend)
Bence, C. R. (Dunbartonshire, E.) Forman, J. C. McLeavy, Frank
Benn, Hn. Wedgwood (Bristol, S.E.) Fraser, Thomas (Hamilton) MacMillan, M. K. (Western Isles)
Benson, G. Gibson, C. W. Mahon, Simon
Beswick, F. Gordon Walker, Rt. Hon. P. C. Mainwaring, W. H.
Bevan, Rt. Hon. A. (Ebbw Vale) Grenfell, Rt. Hon. D. R. Mallalieu, E. L. (Brigg)
Blenkinsop, A. Grey, C. F. Mallalieu, J.P.W.(Huddersfd, E.)
Blyton, W. R. Griffiths, David (Rother Valley) Mann, Mrs. Jean
Boardman, H. Griffiths, Rt. Hon. James (Llanelly) Marquand, Rt. Hon. H. A.
Bottomley, Rt. Hon. A. G. Grimond, J. Mason, Roy
Bowden, H. W. (Leicester, S.W.) Hale, Leslie Mayhew, C. P.
Bowen, E. R. (Cardigan) Hall, Rt. Hn. Glenvil (Colne Valley) Mellish, R. J.
Bowles, F. G. Hannan, W. Messer, Sir F.
Boyd, T. C. Harrison, J. (Nottingham, N.) Mikardo, Ian
Braddock, Mrs. Elizabeth Hastings, S. Mitchison, C. R.
Brockway, A. F. Hayman, F. H. Monslow, W.
Broughton, Dr. A. D. D. Henderson, Rt. Hn. A. (Rwly Regis) Morris, Percy (Swansea, W.)
Brown, Rt. Hon. George (Belper) Herbison, Miss M. Mort, D. L.
Brown, Thomas (Ince) Hewitson, Capt. M. Moss, R.
Burke, W. A. Hobson, C. R. Moyle, A.
Butler, Herbert (Hackney, C.) Holman, P. Mulley, F. W.
Butler, Mrs. Joyce (Wood Green) Holmes, Horace Neal, Harold (Bolsover)
Callaghan, L. J. Howell, Charles (Perry Barr) Oliver, G. H.
Carmichael, J. Howell, Denis (All Saints) Oram, A. E.
Castle, Mrs. B. A. Hoy, J. H. Orbach, M.
Chapman, W. D. Hughes, Cledwyn (Anglesey) Oswald, T.
Chetwynd, G. R. Hughes, Emrys (S. Ayrshire) Owen, W. J,
Clunie, J. Hughes, Hector (Aberdeen, N.) Padley, W. E.
Collick, P. H. (Birkenhead) Hunter, A. E. Paling, Rt. Hon. W. (Dearne Valley)
Collins, V.J. (Shoreditch & Finsbury) Hynd, H. (Accrington) Paling, Will T. (Dewsbury)
Corbet, Mrs. Freda Irvine, A. J. (Edge Hill) Pannell, Charles (Leeds, W.)
Cove, W. G. Isaacs, Rt. Hon. G. A. Parker, J.
Craddock, George (Bradford, S.) Janner, B. Parkin, B. T.
Cronin, J. D. Jay, Rt. Hon. D. P. T. Paton, J.
Crossman, R. H. S. Jeger, Mrs.Lena (Holbn & St.Pncs.S.) Pearson, A.
Cullen, Mrs. A. Johnson, James (Rugby) Peart T. F.
Daines, P. Jones, David (The Hartlepools) Prior, J. T. (Westhoughton)
Darling, George (Hillsborough) Jones, Jack (Rotherham) Probert, A. R.
Davies, Ernest (Enfield, E.) Jones, J. Idwal (Wrexham) Proctor, W. T.
Davies, Stephen (Merthyr) Jones. T. W. (Merioneth) Randall, H. E.
Deer, G. Kenyon, C. Rankin, John
Delargy, H. J. Key, Rt. Hon. C. W. Reeves, J.
Dodds, N. N. King, Dr. H. M. Rhodes, H.
Dye, S. Lawson, G. M. Robens, Rt. Hon. A.
Ede, Rt. Hon. J. C. Lee, Frederick (Newton) Roberts, Albert (Normanton)
Edwards, Rt. Hon. Ness (Caerphilly) Lee, Miss Jennie (Cannock) Roberts, Goronwy (Caernarvon)
Robinson, Kenneth (St. Pancras, N.) Summerskill, Rt. Hon. E. Willey, Frederick
Rogers, George (Kensington, N.) Swingler, S. T. Williams, David (Neath)
Ross, William Sylvester, G. O. Williams, Rt. Hon. T. (Don Valley)
Shinwell, Rt. Hon. E. Taylor, Bernard (Mansfield) Williams, W. R. (Openshaw)
Silverman, Julius (Aston) Thomas, Iorwerth (Rhondda, W.) Williams, W. T. (Barons Court)
Silverman, Sydney (Nelson) Thornton, E. Willis, Eustace (Edinburgh, E.)
Simmons, C. J. (Brierley Hill) Timmons, J. Wilson, Rt. Hon. Harold (Huyton)
Skeffington, A. M. Ungoed-Thomas, Sir Lynn Winterbottom, Richard
Slater, Mrs. H. (Stoke, N.) Usborne, H. C. Woodburn, Rt. Hon. A.
Slater, J. (Sedgefield) Viant, S. P. Woof, R. E.
Sorensen, R. W. Warbey, W. N. Younger, Rt. Hon. K.
Sparks, J. A. Wells, Percy (Faversham) Zilliacus, K.
Steele, T. Wheeldon, W. E.
Stewart, Michael (Fulham) White, Mrs. Eirene (E. Flint) TELLERS FOR THE NOES:
Strauss, Rt. Hon. George (Vauxhall) White, Henry (Derbyshire, N.E.) Mr. Short and Mr. J. Taylor.
Stross, Dr. Barnett(Stoke-on-Trent, C.) Wilkins, W. A.

Clause added to the Bill.

Bill reported, with Amendments; as amended (in Standing Committee D and in the Scottish Standing Committee and on re-committal), considered.