§ 26. Mr. Callaghanasked the Minister of Fuel and Power if he will make a detailed statement on what part of the investment programmes of the coal, gas, and electricity industries are to be reduced, following the recent capital cuts.
§ Mr. Aubrey JonesThe proposed fixed investment programmes of these industries before the recent revisions and the programmes subsequently approved are as follows:
§ Coal: Proposed for the calendar year 1956: £112 million. Approved: £107 million. The reduction will affect ancil 817 lary operations at collieries, but not coal production.
§ Gas: Proposed for the financial year 1956–57: £56 million. Approved: £52 million. The gas boards are still looking at their plans in the light of this reduction, but I think it likely that the reduction will bear primarily on distribution.
§ Electricity: Proposed for the financial year 1956–57: £204 million. Approved £195 million. Since the proposed programme already represented a curtailment in distribution, this reduction will fall in the main on generation.
§ Mr. CallaghanAs far as the electricity industry is concerned, is it not rather foolish to cut at the base of our industrial economy? How can we double our standard of life in 25 years if generation is to be cut at this stage?
§ Mr. JonesReductions in investment are always regrettable. On the other hand, one of the alleged advantages of nationalisation is that the nationalised industries are subject to direct control by the Government. Hon. Members ought not, therefore, to complain if the control is exercised on occasion.
§ Mr. NabarroDoes my right hon. Friend observe the fact that the reduction in the electricity industry's investment programme amounts to 4½ per cent. only? Has he also observed from his study of the Herbert Committee's Report that very large economies are available in the electricity industry without prejudicing in any way generation of essential electrical current or the distribution of it? Can we have some real economy in these fringe activities?
§ Mr. JonesEconomy is always desirable. When certain reductions are made they must of necessity be balanced.
§ Mr. CallaghanReverting to the question of the control of nationalised industries, is not the whole point that the control ought to be exercised wisely? The question I put to the Minister is, how can we expect an expansion of our industrial base if he cuts away at the generation of electricity in two or three years' time?
§ Mr. JonesI have acknowledged the regrettable nature of all reductions in investment. On the other hand, we have an overloaded economy and certain 818 reductions had to be made. The nationalised industries were clearly amenable to direct control by the Government. Other industries are amenable to such reductions as can be effected through prices and rates of interest.
§ Mr. CallaghanHow is the Minister ensuring that the nationalised industries are not bearing an unfair share of this cut in capital investment, in view of their importance to the development of our economy?
§ Mr. JonesI have already said that it is an aim of mine to ensure that the reductions are balanced.