HC Deb 30 March 1955 vol 539 cc501-11
Mr. Michael Higgs (Bromsgrove)

I beg to move, in page 14, line 40, to leave out from the beginning to " the " and insert: a certificate of the Minister that any land being land which at.

Mr. Speaker

I think this and the next two Amendments might conveniently be taken together.

Mr. Higgs

Subsection (2) of this Clause provides that the decision on a certain question of fact shall be the decision of the Minister, but it does not provide how anybody in any proceedings in court is to prove that the Minister has so decided. We thought it proper, and my right hon. Friend indicated in Committee that he agreed with us, that we should provide that when the Minister has made his decision a certificate from the Minister should be sufficient proof of his decision. These three Amendments are intended to give effect to that intention.

Mr. J. Enoch Powell (Wolverhampton, South-West)

I beg to second the Amendment.

Amendment agreed to.

Further Amendments made: In page 14, line 42, after " is " insert " or is not."

In line 43, leave out from " be " to end of line 44 and insert: conclusive evidence of the matter so certified."—[Mr. Higgs]

9.34 p.m.

The Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Housing and Local Government (Mr. W. F. Deedes)

I beg to move, That the Bill be now read the Third time.

I think it will meet the wishes of the House if I move this Motion fairly briefly. I may add that I do so with some personal diffidence. I regret that during the second half of the Committee stage I was unavoidably absent, and another reason for my diffidence is my knowledge, which by now will be shared by all hon. Members who have taken part in our discussions, that the brunt of the work has been borne by my right hon. Friend. He has done all the hard work.

On Second Reading I said that my right hon. Friend had spared no pains to achieve clarity in the draft. I hope that I may now say, with the agreement of hon. Members who have taken part in the discussions, that he has spared no pains to meet as reasonably as possible points raised from all quarters.

The Bill sets out to solve an exceedingly difficult problem which was becoming harder rather than easier with the passage of time. It would not have reached this stage in this form without a large measure of co-operation and assistance which we have had from right hon. and hon. Gentlemen opposite and, indeed, hon. Members in all parts of the House. For that my right hon. Friend is exceedingly grateful and he wishes most sincerely to acknowledge the contributions which have been made.

The Bill has mainly concerned a small number of local authorities and naturally most of the contributions have come from hon. Members concerned with those areas. We have had the benefit of the considerable knowledge of detail which they have been able to bring to bear.

Mr. Shurmer

We have not had the extension by five years, have we?

Mr. Deedes

In conclusion, in the long run we shall depend, as we already depend in so much, upon the co-operation of the local authorities for the smooth running of the machinery. We rely on that, and I am sure we can do so with every confidence.

9.37 p.m.

Mr. Lindgren

I intend to follow the Parliamentary Secretary's example of brevity, as it is desirable that we should vote as early as possible. I, too, take the opportunity of saying how glad we are to see the Parliamentary Secretary back, and that he has recovered from his slight illness.

It is usual, on Third Reading, to compliment the Minister on his handling of the Bill, and we do that. The Minister was most courteous in Committee, and we are grateful to him for it. It is an easier way of getting a Bill through than some other ways adopted by some Ministers. But we cannot congratulate the right hon. Gentleman on the Bill itself. It is a better Bill than when it was presented to the House, and that is because the Minister, in Committee, promised some concessions which he has honoured on Report, and these have mitigated the worst hardships imposed by the Bill.

But it remains a property-owner's Bill, a Bill for the benefits of the property owner and not for the benefit of the tenant. These properties with which we are dealing were empty when they were requisitioned, and they were requisitioned to rehouse people from London, Birmingham and Manchester, for example, who had lost their homes in the blitz. Now, ten years after the end of the war, we are dealing with those families who lost their homes during the war. During the war, the Tory Party is quite ruthless in handling the landlords and their property, but when the war is over they forget all about that and go back to the old style of giving all the advantages they can to the property owner at the expense of the tenant.

Viscount Hinchingbrooke (Dorset, South)


Mr. Lindgren

I would point out that Government supporters have not been very enthusiastic about the Bill. The Government's votes and majorities today have been the lowest they have had, and the reason that their votes and majorities have fallen is that a number of hon. Members do not want to be challenged on their votes in the constituencies.

Viscount Hinchingbrooke

Is it because the hon. Member and members of his party want to celebrate their new-found unity?

Mr. Lindgren

We are glad that that has upset the noble Lord. I would warn him—perhaps I am as guilty as he—that we are anxious to get the Third Reading of this Bill soon, and, if we cross one another in this way, perhaps we shall not do so.

We are still convinced that if the Amendments the Minister has accepted are operated in the spirit in which they were moved and in the spirit in which I believe the Minister accepted them, these properties cannot be handed over by the local authorities—in London in particular —by 1960. That has been one of our main contentions in dealing with the Bill in Committee and on Report.

The Minister has made an offer, on conditions, that he would extend that period. My Parliamentary experience is not a very long one, but in that experience that offer was certainly an unprecedented sort of bargaining from Dispatch Box to Dispatch Box. My first reaction to that offer was that it is the responsibility of the Government, in handling legislation, to accept or reject Amendments in the light of the circumstances in which they feel they ought to accept or reject them. I am certain that at some later stage there will need to be an amendment of this Bill to deal with the problem which will face many London boroughs in regard to derequisitioning.

We shall not accept the offer of the Minister. If, in another place, he likes to introduce an Amendment which will extend the time, we think that would be an improvement to the Bill. It would certainly help the London boroughs in handling their problems. But we are not prepared to make that bargain to the extent of refraining from voting against the Third Reading of the Bill, which we think is a thoroughly bad Bill in its conception, because we feel that that conception is not in the interests of the country as a whole, but in the interests of property owners, who are restricted for the time being because their properties are requisitioned.

9.42 p.m.

Mr. A. Evans

I shall be brief, because I realise that the House wishes to dispose of this matter as quickly as possible, but I do not think we should allow this stage to go by without having a few words from the Minister.

I wish that the Bill really contained a solution of the problem of requisitioned property. I think that everyone who has anything to do with the problem—town clerks, housing managers, local councillors and others—would be very thankful if the Bill really contained a solution of the problem. We all wish to dispose of the problem as quickly as possible.

This Bill attempts to deal with the hard core of the matter. Half the problem has been solved over recent years as about 61,000 premises have been de-requisitioned. There remain 62,000 still under requisition. That is the hard core and the most difficult part of the problem. That hard core the Minister proposes to hand over to the local authorities to deal with. He is sweeping away the really difficult part of this problem and putting it in the care of the local authorities.

Because the Minister is doing that I think it incumbent upon him to offer local authorities every possible assistance, particularly in relation to the operation of Clause 4. I believe the Minister would agree that Clause 4 is the pivotal Clause of the Bill. Upon the success of that Clause, upon the general application of the provisions of that Clause, will depend the success or the failure of the entire Bill. I hope the Minister will make every effort to assist local authorities to operate the provisions of Clause 4 as widely as possible. I hope that he will not be too hesitant on the grounds of expense in releasing various categories of properties under that Clause.

I hope that the right hon. Gentleman will not think first of the more expensive properties which might be dealt with under Clause 4 but will endeavour to help to apply the Clause in the hard core areas. He can do much to help local authorities in those older urban areas to apply the Clause widely and successfully, and I hope that he will use all his administrative machine to assist those local authorities, whom he has burdened with this problem.

I am afraid that although Clause 4, with the passing of requisitioned properties back to their owners with some security for the tenants, may operate fairly well in some areas, it will operate the least well in the hard core areas. As I sec it, those areas will by 1960 have to revert to the final solution, which is open to them in Clause 11, of buying or leasing the premises which then remain requisitioned. If that stage is reached and the authorities in the hard core areas are faced with that problem. the Minister, if still in office, will be faced with the problem all over again.

In my own borough, which is typical of many, 23,000 families are living in 13,000 premises. [HON. MEMBERS:" What'? "] Twenty-three thousand families—I beg pardon. One thousand three hundred premises contain 2,300 families. If hon. Members knock off the noughts, they will get it right. I estimate that in 1960 at least half of those properties will remain requisitioned and still in the possession of the local authorities, who will be faced with their final solution of buying or leasing those properties.

When that comes about, local authorities will be faced with the question of whether to buy sub-standard property. I do not know whether it is the policy of the Government that local authorities should become the owners of semi-slum property, but I am sure the Minister will appreciate that the purchase of substandard property is a step that a local authority would be very loath to undertake. It is a shame upon a local authority's civil pride that it must contemplate the purchase of this substandard property.

I am told by those in the area who should know that out of the 1,300 premises, not more than 100 are worth buying. The remainder are the type of property that no business man would look at. I am assured that to put them into a fit condition would cost more than to build new flats. If the Minister is still on the Government Front Bench in 1960 —which is very doubtful—he will then be faced with this problem all over again. I repeat my plea to the right hon. Gentleman to do everything he can from his own Department to ensure that local authorities in the hard core areas are able to operate Clause 4 as widely as possible.

9.49 p.m.

Mr. Dalton

I commiserate with the Minister at this stage, because no one rises to support the Bill from the benches behind him—low majorities, low morale and only chit-chat from the noble Lord the Member for Dorset, South (Viscount Hinchingbrooke). There may indeed be some unnamed cause casting a shadow over coming events, but to pursue that further would, I suspect, not be in order now.

This Bill began as a very bad Bill indeed. We took it upstairs, and one or two Amendments were made in Standing Committee, rendering it a very bad Bill. We then brought it back to the Chamber again and the right hon. Gentleman introduced Amendments, and, by a very courteous act which I appreciate, encouraged my hon. Friends to put down certain Amendments, redrafted, to give effect to undertakings which he had given upstairs. So a very bad Bill was improved until it was quite a bad Bill, and quite a bad Bill it still is, and that is why we must record a vote against it tonight, so that it shall be on the record that we do not accept the principal features of the Bill.

They have been constantly criticised, and I do not intend to repeat the criticisms, but merely to refer to them very briefly. We have criticised the Bill because for the authorities in London—in inner London and outer London—in Birmingham and one or two other important areas, a period of five years is impossibly short to complete the work of derequisitioning without causing very great hardship to large numbers of humble people who have incurred no responsibility for their present condition, it being largely due to the hazards of war, whereby it was these people, for the most part, who were beneath the German bombs.

That is our first and principal objection to the Bill, and on that ground alone we must divide the House against it, but in addition to that we take objection to the Bill because at more than one point it leans heavily in favour of the landlord and against the tenant—the licensee. These are the two principal reasons—others have been given—why we must vote against the Bill.

We are anxious to come to a decision quickly, and so I shall not further repeat the arguments which have been made previously. I finally ask the Minister whether, in the light of the discussions that have taken place today, he will contemplate the possibility that when the Bill reaches another place there may be made, on his initiative, certain further Amendments, to some of which, I think, he is intellectually converted, and which, I hope, he will think fit to have made in the Bill.

9.52 p.m.

Mr. Sandys

I do not propose to detain the House for more than a few moments, but I should like to say that I am most grateful, in spite of some of the things

Division No. 59.] AYES [9.54 p.m.
Aitken, W. T. Bossom, Sir A. C. Cole, Norman
Alport, C. J. M. Boyd-Carpenter, Rt. Hon. J. A. Conant, Maj. Sir Roger
Anstruther-Cray, Major W. J. Boyle, Sir Edward Craddock, Berestord (Spelthorne)
Armstrong, C. W. Braithwaite, Sir Albert (Harrow, W.) Crookshank, Capt. Rt. Hn. H. F. C.
Ashton, H. (Chelmsford) Braithwaite, Sir Gurney Crosthwaite-Eyre, Col. O. E.
Assheton, Rt. Hn. R. (Blackburn,W.) Brooman-White, R. C. Crowder, Sir John (Finchley)
Baldwin, A. E. Browne, Jack (Govan) Crowder, Petre (Ruislip—Northwood)
Barlow, Sir John Buchan-Hepburn, Rt. Hon. P. G. T. Darling, Sir William (Edinburgh, S.)
Beach, Maj. Hicks Bullard, D. G. Davidson, Viscountess
Bell, Philip (Bolton, E.) Bullus, Wing Commander E. E. Deedes, W. F.
Bell, Ronald (Bucks, S.) Campbell, Sir David Digby, S. Wingfield
Bennett, Sir William (Woodside) Carr, Robert Donaldson, Cmdr. C. E. McA.
Bevins, J. R. (Toxteth) Cary, Sir Robert Donner, Sir P. W.
Birch, Rt. Hon. Nigel Channon, H. Duncan, Capt. J. A. L.
Bishop, F. P. Clarke, Col. Sir Ralph (E. Grinstead) Duthie, W. S.
Black, C. W. Clarke, Brig. Terence (Portsmth,W.) Eden, J. B. (Bournemouth, West)

which the right hon. Gentleman the Member for Bishop Auckland (Mr. Dalton) has just said, which, I think, he no doubt felt bound to say—

Mr. Dalton

With good reason.

Mr. Sandys

—felt bound to say—

Mr. Dalton

I did. I felt morally bound to say them.

Mr. Sandys

I do not think the right hon. Gentleman is altogether convinced by some of the arguments which he and his hon. Friends have advanced during the debates on the Bill.

I think there was misunderstanding at the beginning. When the Bill was first introduced, many hon. Members opposite genuinely thought that large numbers of families were to be thrown out on to the streets as a result of the Bill. I think they realise now that that is not going to be the case.

I am grateful for the co-operation from all parts of the House. The Bill has, I readily recognise, certainly been improved as a result of the Amendments put forward from all quarters, and I think that some of the criticisms which might justifiably have been made in the first place are no longer relevant, now that Amendments have been made. The object of the Bill is to return requisitioned houses to their owners as quickly as possible, consistent with the avoidance of hardship to the present occupiers—

Mr. Shurmer

Why return them? Not all the owners even want them.

Mr. Sandys

—and I am confident that the Bill will achieve that object.

Question put, That the Bill be now read the Third time:—

The House divided: Noes 182.

Fell, A. Legh, Hon. Peter (Petersfield) Rees-Davies, W. R.
Finlay, Craeme Linstead, Sir H. N. Remnant, Hon. P.
Fisher, Nigel Llewellyn, D. T. Ridsdale, J. E.
Fleetwood-Hesketh, R. F. Lloyd, Maj. Sir Guy (Renfrew, E.) Roberts, Peter (Heeley)
Fletcher-Cooke, C. Lloyd-George, Maj. Rt. Hon. G. Robertson, Sir David
Galbraith, Rt. Hon. T. D. (Pollok) Lockwood, Lt.-Col. J. C. Roper, Sir Harold
Garner-Evans, E. H. Longden, Gilbert Ropner, Col. Sir Leonard
Glover, D. Lucas, Sir Jocelyn (Portsmouth, S.) Russell, R. S.
Gomme-Duncan, Col. A. Lucas, P. B. (Brentford) Ryder, Capt. R. E. D.
Gower, H. R. Lucas-Tooth, Sir Hugh Sandys, Rt. Hon. D.
Graham, Sir Fergus McCallum, Major D. Savory, Prof. Sir Douglas
Gresham Cooke, R. McCorquodale, Rt. Hon. M. S. Schofield, Lt.-Col. W.
Grimston, Hon. John (St. Albans) Mackeson, Brig. Sir Harry Scott, Sir Donald
Grimston, Sir Robert (Westbury) McKibbin, A. J. Scott-Miller, Cmdr. R.
Hall, John (Wycombe) Mackie, J. H. (Galloway) Shepherd, William
Hare, Hon. J. H. Maclay, Rt. Hon. John Simon, J. E. S. (Middlesbegh, W.)
Harris, Frederic (Croydon, N.) Maclean, Fitzroy (Lancaster) Smyth, Brig. J. G. (Norwood)
Harrison, Col. J. H. (Eye) McLean, Neil (Inverness) Spearman, A. C. M.
Harvey, Air Cdre. A. V. (Macclesfd) Macleod, Rt. Hn. Iain (Enfield, W.) Speir, R. M.
Hay, John MacLeod, John (Ross & Cromarty) Spence, H. R. (Aberdeenshire, W.)
Heald, Rt. Hon. Sir Lionel Maitland, Patrick (Lanark) Spens, Rt. Hn. Sir P. (K'ns'gt'n, S.)
Heath, Edward Manningham-Buller, Rt. Hn. Sir R. Stanley, Capt. Hon. Richard
Higgs, J. M. C. Markham, Major Sir Frank Stevens, Geoffrey
Hill, Dr. Charles (Luton) Marlowe, A. A. H. Steward, Harold (Stockport, S.)
Hill, Mrs. E. (Wythenshawe) Marples, A. E. Steward, William (Woolwich, W.)
Hill, John (S. Norfolk) Marshall, Douglas (Bodmin) Strauss, Henry (Norwich, S.)
Hinchingbrooke, Viscount Maude, Angus Studholme, H. G.
Hirst, Geoffrey Maydon, Lt.-Comdr. S. L. C. Sumner, W. D. M. (Orpington)
Holland-Martin, C. J. Medlicott, Sir Frank Sutcliffe, Sir Harold
Holt, A. F. Milligan, Rt. Hon. W. R. Taylor, William (Bradford, N.)
Hopkinson, Rt. Hon. Henry Morrison, John (Salisbury) Thomas, Leslie (Canterbury)
Howard, Hon. Greville (St. Ives) Nabarro, G. D. N. Thomas, P. J. M. (Conway)
Hudson, Sir Austin (Lewisham, N.) Heave, Airey Thompson, Lt-Cdr. R. (Croydon, W.)
Hudson, W. R. A. (Hull, N.) Nicholson, Geoffrey (Farnham) Thornton-Kemsley, C. N.
Hughes Hallett, Vice-Admiral J. Nicolson, Nigel (Bournemouth, E.) Touche, Sir Gordon
Hulbert, Wing Cmdr. N. J. Noble, Cmdr. A. H. P. Vaughan-Morgan, J. K.
Hutchison, Sir Ian Clark (E'b'gh,W.) Nugent, G. R. H. Wade, D. W.
Hutchison, James (Scotstoun) Oakshott, H. D. Wakefield, Edward (Derbyshire, W.)
Hylton-Foster, Sir H. B. H. Odey, G. W. Wakefield, Sir Wavell (St. M'le'bne)
Iremonger, T. L. O'Neill, Hon. Phelim (Co. Antrim, N.) Wall, Major Patrick
Jenkins, Robert (Dulwich) Ormsby-Gore, Hon. W. D. Ward, Hon. George (Worcester)
Jennings, Sir Roland Orr, Capt. L. P. S. Ward, Miss I. (Tynemouth)
Johnson, Eric (Blackley) Page, R. G. Wellwood, W.
Jones, A. (Hall Green) Peaks, Rt. Hon. 0. Williams, Gerald (Tonbridge)
Joynson-Hicks, Hon. L. W. Perkins, Sir Robert Williams, Paul (Sunderland, S.)
Kerby, Capt. H. B. Peyton, J. W. W. Wills, G.
Lambert, Hon. G. Pickthorn, K. W. M. Wilson, Geoffrey (Truro)
Lambton, Viscount Pilkington, Capt. R. A. Wood, Hon. R.
Lancaster, Col. C. G. Pitt, Miss E. M. Woolam, John Victor
Langford-Holt, J. A. Powell, J. Enoch TELLERS FOR THE AYES:
Legge-Bourke, Maj. E. A, H. Prior-Palmer, Brig. 0. L. Sir Cedric Drewe and Mr. Kaberry.
Profumo, J. D.
Raikes, Sir Victor
Adams, Richard Dalton, Rt. Hon. H. Hall, Rt. Hn. Glenvil (Colne Valley)
Allen, Scholefield (Crewe) Davies, Ernest (Enfield, E.) Hall, John T. (Gateshead, W.)
Attlee, Rt. Hon. C. R. Davies, Harold (Leek) Hannan, W.
Awbery, S. S. de Freitas, Geoffrey Hargreaves, A.
Bacon, Miss Alice Deer, G. Hastings, S.
Benson, G. Delargy, H. J. Hayman, F. H.
Beswick, F. Dodds, N. N. Healey, Denis (Leeds, S.E.)
Bing, G. H. C. Donnelly, D. L. Herbison, Miss M.
Blackburn, F. Dugdale, Rt. Hn. John (W. Brmwch) Hobson, C. R.
Blenkinsop, A. Ede, Rt. Hon. J. C. Holman, P.
Blyton, W. R. Edwards, W. J. (Stepney) Houghton, Douglas
Bottomley, Rt. Hon. A. G. Evans, Albert (Islington, S.W.) Hoy, J. H.
Bowles, F. G. Evans, Edward (Lowestoft) Hubbard, T. F.
Braddock, Mrs. Elizabeth Evans, Stanley (Wednesbury) Hudson, James (Ealing, N.)
Brook, Dryden (Halifax) Fernyhough, E. Hughes, Cledwyn (Anglesey)
Broughton, Dr. A. D. D. Finch, H. J. Hughes, Emrys (S. Ayrshire)
Brown, Thomas (Ince) Fletcher, Eric (Islington, E.) Hynd, J. B. (Attercliffe)
Burke, W. A. Foot, M. M. Irvine, A. J. (Edge Hill)
Butler, Herbert (Hackney, S.) Forman, J. C. Irving, W. J. (Wood Green)
Callaghan, L. J. Fraser, Thomas (Hamilton) Isaacs, Rt. Hon. G. A.
Champion, A. J. Gibson, C. W. Janner, B.
Clunie, J. Glanville, James Jeger, Mrs. Lena
Coldrick, W. Grey, C. F. Johnson, James (Rugby)
Collick, P. H. Griffiths, David (Rother Valley) Johnston, Douglas (Paisley)
Collins, V. J. Griffiths, Rt. Hon. James (Llanelly) Jones, David (Hartlepool)
Cove, W. C. Griffiths, William (Exchange) Jones, Frederick Elwyn (W. Ham, S.)
Craddock, George (Bradford, S.) Hale, Leslie Jones, Jack (Rotherham)
Cullen, Mrs. A.
Jones, James (Wrexham) Neal, Harold (Bolsover) Steele, T.
Keenan, W. Oliver, G. H. Stewart, Michael (Fulham, E.)
Kenyon, C. Oswald, T. Summerskill, Rt. Hon. E.
Key, Rt. Hon. C. W. Paget, R. T. Swingler, S. T.
King, Dr. H. M. Paling, Will T. (Dewsbury) Taylor, John (West Lothian)
Kinley, J. Palmer, A. M. F. Thomas, Ivor Owen (Wrekin)
Lawson, G. M. Pannell, Charles Thornton, E.
Lee, Frederick (Newton) Pargiter, G. A. Timmons, J.
Lever, Harold (Cheetham) Parker, J. Turner-Samuels, M.
Lever, Leslie (Ardwick) Paton, J. Ungoed-Thomas, Sir Lynn
Lewis, Arthur Popplewell, E. Viant, S. P.
Lindgren, G. S. Porter, G. Wallace, H. W.
Lipton, Lt.-Col. M. Price, J. T. (Westhoughton) Watkins, T. E.
Logan, D. G. Price, Philips (Gloucestershire, W.) Webb, Rt. Hon. M. (Bradford, C.)
McInnes, J. Probert, A. R. Weitzman, D.
McKay, John (Wallsend) Proctor, W. T. Wells, Percy (Faversham)
MacMillan, M. K. (Western Isles) Pryde, D. J. West, D. G.
MacPherson, Malcolm (Stirling) Reid, Thomas (Swindon) Wheeldon, W. E.
Mainwaring, W. H. Reid, William (Camlachie) White, Henry (Derbyshire, N.E.)
Mallalieu, E. L. (Brigg) Rhodes, H. Whiteley, Rt. Hon. W.
Mallalieu, J. P. W. (Huddersf'd, E.) Robens, Rt. Hon. A. Wilkins, W. A.
Mann, Mrs. Jean Roberts, Albert (Normanton) Willey, Frederick
Manuel, A. C. Ross, William Williams, David (heath)
Marquand, Rt. Hon. H. A. Shackleton, E. A. A. Williams, Rev. Llywelyn (Ab'tillery)
Mason, Roy Short, E. W. Williams, Ronald (Wigan)
Mayhew, C. P. Shurmer, P. L. E. Williams, Rt. Hon. T. (Don Valley)
Messer, Sir F. Silverman, Julius (Erdington) Williams, W. R. (Droylsden)
Mitchison, G. R. Simmons, C. J. (Brierley Hill) Williams, W. T. (Hammersmith, S.)
Moody, A. S. Slater, Mrs. H. (Stoke-on-Trent) Willis E. C.
Morgan, Dr. H. B. W. Slater, J. (Durham, Sedgefield) Winterbottom Richard (Brightside)
Morris, Percy (Swansea, W.) Smith, Ellis (Stoke, S.) Woodburn, Rt. Hon. A.
Morrison,Rt.Hn.Herbert(Lewis'm,S.) Sorensen, R. W. Yates, V. F.
Moyle, A. Soskice, Rt. Hon. Sir Frank TELLERS FOR THE NOES:
Nally, W, Sparks, J. A. Mr. Pearson and Mr. Arthur Allen.

Bill accordingly read the Third time and passed.