§
Motion made, and Question proposed,
That the Proceedings of the Committee on Transport [Money], on the Expiring Laws Continuance Bill and of the Committee on Expiring Laws Continuance [Money] be exempted, at this day's Sitting, from the provisions of Standing Order No. 1 (Sittings of the House).—[The Prime Minister.]
§ Mr. H. MorrisonOn a point of order. This seems to be rather serious, Mr. Speaker. You called from the Chair: "The Clerk will now proceed to read the Orders of the Day." Apparently the Government had failed to move the suspension of the Rule, and I submit that it would be quite unfair to the House to permit them to do so now.
§ Mr. SpeakerBefore the Orders of the Day had in fact been read I recollected myself, and realised that these items were to be taken.
§ The Prime MinisterMy action was correct, but the range was unduly short.
§ Mr. MorrisonThe point I am making is that I very distinctly heard, as did everybody in the House—and that is one thing we can say about our Speaker, that he has a very clear voice—"The Clerk will now proceed to read the Orders of the Day." My submission is that when 1596 that is done, it is too late for the Motion for the suspension to be nodded, moved or dealt with.
§ Mr. SpeakerI admit—and I have never denied—that I did ask the Clerk in error to read the Orders of the Day before these other items were taken, but luckily I recollected myself before the Orders of the Day were actually read; so the House is not yet on the Orders of the Day. Having done that before irreparable damage was done, I ask the House to excuse my first slip and to allow us to proceed.
§ Mr. MorrisonI am sorry to be persistent. According to our recollection and our hearing, the Town and Country Planning Bill was called and was presented by the Minister. Therefore business was transacted. I submit that my former point is in itself pretty conclusive, but this surely adds to it—that the Minister gave the nod and the Bill was presented. I submit that it is now too late to proceed with the suspension of the Rule.
§ Mr. SpeakerI rule against that. I did call the Minister to present the Town and Country Planning Bill and he duly did so. That having been done, we had not entered upon the Orders of the Day, and therefore it was still open to me to call the Prime Minister to move his Motion, which be has done.
§ Mr. MikardoFurther to that point of order. At the moment when you did eventually call the right hon. Gentleman the Prime Minister, he was walking down the aisle towards the exit. Indeed, he had almost reached your Chair. Is it in order for an hon. Member—or even a right hon. Member—to move a Motion when he is in the process of perambulation?
§ Mr. SpeakerThat raises another matter. It is a settled practice that one Member of the Government can move a Motion for another.
§ Question put.
§ The House divided: Ayes. 266; Noes, 218.
1599| Division No. 3.] | AYES | [4.0 p.m. |
| Aitken, W. T. | George, Rt. Hon. Maj. G. Lloyd | Mellor, Sir John |
| Allan, R. A. (Paddington, S.) | Glyn, Sir Ralph | Molson, A. H. E. |
| Alport C. J. M. | Godber, J. B. | Monckton, Rt. Hon. Sir Walter |
| Amory, Heathcoat (Tiverton) | Gomme-Duncan, Col. A. | Morrison, John (Salisbury) |
| Anstruther-Gray, Major W. J. | Gough, C. F. H. | Mott-Radclyffe, C. E. |
| Arbuthnot, John | Gower, H. R. | Nabarro, G. D. N. |
| Ashton, H. (Chelmsford) | Graham, Sir Fergus | Nicholls, Harmar |
| Assheton, Rt. Hon. R. (Blackburn, W.) | Gridley, Sir Arnold | Nicholson, Godfrey (Fareham) |
| Baker, P. A. D. | Grimond, J. | Nicolson, Nigel (Bournemouth, E.) |
| Baldock, Lt.-Cmdr. J. M. | Grimston, Hon. John (St. Albans) | Nield, Basil (Chester) |
| Banks, Col. C. | Grimston, Sir Robert (Westbury) | Noble, Cmdr. A. H. P. |
| Barber, Anthony | Hall, John (Wycombe) | Nugent, G. R. H. |
| Barlow, Sir John | Harden, J. R. E. | Oakshott, H. D. |
| Baxter, A. B. | Harris, Frederic (Croydon, N.) | Odey, G. W. |
| Beach, Maj. Hicks | Harris, Reader (Heston) | O'Neill, Phelim (Co. Antrim, N.) |
| Beamish, Maj. Tufton | Harrison, Col. J. H. (Eye) | Ormsby-Gore, Hon. W. D. |
| Bell, Philip (Bolton, E.) | Harvey, Air Cdre. A. V. (Macclesfield) | Orr, Capt. L. P. S. |
| Bennett, F. M. (Reading, N.) | Harvey, Ian (Harrow, E.) | Orr-Ewing, Charles Ian (Hendon, N.) |
| Bennett, Sir Peter (Edgbaston) | Harvie-Watt, Sir George | Osborne, C. |
| Bennett, Dr. Reginald (Gosport) | Head, Rt. Hon. A. H. | Partridge, E. |
| Bennett, William (Woodside) | Heald, Sir Lionel | Peake, Rt. Hon. O. |
| Bevins, J. R. (Toxteth) | Heath, Edward | Perkins, W. R. D. |
| Birch, Nigel | Henderson, John (Cathcart) | Peto, Brig. C. H. M. |
| Bishop, F. P. | Higgs, J. M. C. | Peyton, J. W. W. |
| Black, C. W. | Hill, Dr. Charles (Luton) | Pickthorn, K. W. M. |
| Boyd-Carpenter, J. A. | Hill, Mrs. E. (Wythenshawe) | Pilkington, Capt. R. A. |
| Boyle, Sir Edward | Hinchingbrooke, Viscount | Powell, J. Enoch |
| Braine, B. R. | Hirst, Geoffrey | Price, Henry (Lewisham, W.) |
| Braithwaite, Lt.-Cdr. G. (Bristol, N. W.) | Holt, A. F. | Prior-Palmer, Brig. O. L. |
| Bromley-Davenport, Lt.-Col. W. H. | Hopkinson, Rt. Hon. Henry | Profumo, J. D. |
| Brooke, Henry (Hampstead) | Hornsby-Smith, Miss M. P. | Raikes, H. V. |
| Brooman-White, R. C. | Howard, Greville (St. Ives) | Rayner, Brig. R. |
| Browne, Jack (Govan) | Hudson, Sir Austin (Lewisham, N.) | Redmayne, M. |
| Buchan-Hepburn, Rt. Hon. P. G. T. | Hudson, W. R. A. (Hull, N.) | Remnant, Hon. P. |
| Bullard, D. G. | Hulbert, Wing Cdr. N. J. | Renton, D. L. M. |
| Bullus, Wing Commander E. E. | Hurd, A. R. | Roberts, Peter (Heeley) |
| Burden, F. F. A. | Hutchison, Lt.-Com. Clark (E'b'rgh W.) | Robertson, Sir David |
| Butcher, H. W. | Hutchison, James (Scotstoun) | Robinson, Roland (Blackpool, S.) |
| Campbell, Sir David | Hyde, Lt.-Col. H. M. | Robson-Brown, W. |
| Carr, Robert (Mitcham) | Hylton-Foster, H. B. H. | Rodgers, John (Sevenoaks) |
| Carson, Hon. E. | Jenkins, Robert (Dulwich) | Roper, Sir Harold |
| Cary, Sir Robert | Johnson, Eric (Blackley) | Ropner, Col. Sir Leonard |
| Channon, H. | Jones, A. (Hall Green) | Russell, R. S. |
| Churchill, Rt. Hon. W. S. | Kaberry, D. | Ryder, Capt. R. E. D. |
| Clarke, Col. Ralph (East Grinstead) | Kerr, H. W. (Cambridge) | Salter, Rt. Hon. Sir Arthur |
| Clarke, Brig. Terence (Portsmouth, W.) | Lambert, Hon. G. | Savory, Prof. Sir Douglas |
| Cole, Norman | Lambton, Viscount | Schofield, Lt.-Col. W. (Rochdale) |
| Colegate, W. A. | Lancaster, Col. C. G. | Scott, R. Donald |
| Cooper, Sqn. Ldr. Albert | Langford-Holt, J. A. | Scott-Miller, Cmdr. R. |
| Cooper-Key, E. M. | Law, Rt. Hon. R. K. | Shepherd, William |
| Craddock, Beresford (Spelthorne) | Leather E. H. C. | Simon, J. E. S. (Middlesbrough, W.) |
| Crookshank, Capt. Rt. Hon. H. F. C. | Legge-Bourke, Maj. E. A. H. | Smiles, Lt.-Col. Sir Walter |
| Crouch, R. F. | Legh, P. R. (Petersfield) | Smithers, Peter (Winchester) |
| Crowder, Sir John (Finchley) | Lennox-Boyd, Rt. Hon. A. T. | Smithers, Sir Waldron (Orpington) |
| Cuthbert, W. N. | Linstead, H. N. | Smyth, Brig. J. G. (Norwood) |
| Darling, Sir William (Edinburgh, S.) | Llewellyn, D. T. | Snadden, W. McN. |
| Davidson, Viscountess | Lloyd, Maj. Guy (Renfrew, E.) | Soames, Capt. C. |
| Davies, Rt. Hn. Clement (Montgomery) | Lockwood, Lt.-Col. J. C. | Spearman, A. C. M. |
| Deedes, W. F. | Lucas, Sir Jocelyn (Portsmouth, S.) | Speir, R. M. |
| Digby, S. Wingfield | Lucas, P. B. (Brentford) | Spence, H. R. (Aberdeenshire, W.) |
| Dodds-Parker, A. D. | Lucas-Tooth, Sir Hugh | Spens, Sir Patrick (Kensington, S.) |
| Donaldson, Cmdr. C. E. McA. | Lyttelton, Rt. Hon. O. | Stanley, Capt. Hon. Richard |
| Donner, P. W. | ||
| Douglas-Hamilton, Lord Malcolm | McAdden, S. J. | Stevens, G. P. |
| Drayson, G. B. | McCallum, Major D. | Steward, W. A. (Woolwich, W.) |
| Dugdale, Rt. Hn. Sir T. (Richmond) | McCorquodale, Rt. Hon. M. S. | Stewart, Henderson (Fife, E.) |
| Duncan, Capt. J. A. L. | Mackeson, Brig. H. R. | Stoddart-Scott, Col. M. |
| Duthie, W. S. | McKibbin, A. J. | Storey, S. |
| Eccles, Rt. Hon. D. M. | McKie, J. H. (Galloway) | Strauss, Henry (Norwich, S.) |
| Elliot, Rt. Hon. W. E. | Maclay, Rt. Hon. John | Stuart, Rt. Hon. James (Moray) |
| Erroll, F. J. | Maclean, Fitzroy | Studholme, H. G. |
| Fell, A. | Macmillan, Rt. Hon. Harold (Bromley) | Summers, G. S. |
| Finlay, Graeme | Macpherson, Maj. Niall (Dumfries) | Sutcliffe, H. |
| Fisher, Nigel | Maitland, Comdr. J. F. W. (Horncastle) | Taylor, Charles (Eastbourne) |
| Fleetwood-Hesketh, R. F. | Maitland, Patrick (Lanark) | Taylor, William (Bradford, N.) |
| Fletcher-Cooke, C. | Markham, Major S. F. | Teeling, W. |
| Foster, John | Marlowe, A. A. H. | Thomas, Rt. Hon. J. P. L. (Hereford) |
| Fraser, Hon. Hugh (Stone) | Marples, A. E. | Thomas, P. J. M. (Conway) |
| Fraser, Sir Ian (Morecambe & Lonsdale) | Marshall, Sir Sidney (Sutton) | Thompson, Kenneth (Walton) |
| Fyfe, Rt. Hon. Sir David Maxwell | Maude, Angus | Thompson, Lt.-Cdr. R. (Croydon, W.) |
| Galbraith Cmdr. T. D. (Pollok) | Maudling, R. | Thornton-Kemsley, Col. C. N. |
| Galbraith, T. G. D. (Hillhead) | Maydon, Lt.-Comdr. S. L. C. | Touche, Sir Gordon |
| Garner-Evans, E. H. | Medlicott, Brig. F. | Turner, H. F. L. |
| Turton, R. H. | Ward, Hon. George (Worcester) | Williams, Gerald (Tonbridge) |
| Tweedsmuir, Lady | Ward, Miss I. (Tynemouth) | Williams, R. Dudley (Exeter) |
| Vane, W. M. F. | Waterhouse, Capt. Rt. Hon. C. | Wills, G. |
| Vaughan-Morgan, J. K. | Watkinson, H. A. | Wilson, Geoffrey (Truro) |
| Vosper, D. F. | Webbe, Sir H. (London & Westminster) | Wood, Hon. R. |
| Wakefield, Edward (Derbyshire, W.) | White, Baker (Canterbury) | |
| Wakefield, Sir Wavell (Marylebone) | Williams, Rt. Hon. Charles (Torquay) | TELLERS FOR THE AYES: |
| Mr. Drewe and Major Conant. |
| NOES | ||
| Acland, Sir Richard | Griffiths, William (Exchange) | Pargiter, G. A. |
| Albu, A. H. | Hall, Rt. Hon. Glenvil (Colne Valley | Paton, J. |
| Allen, Arthur (Bosworth) | Hall, John T. (Gateshead, W.) | Pearson, A. |
| Anderson, Alexander (Motherwell) | Hamilton, W. W. | Plummer, Sir Leslie |
| Attlee, Rt. Hon. C. R. | Hannan, W. | Poole, C. C. |
| Awbery, S. S. | Hardy, E. A. | Porter, G. |
| Bacon, Miss Alice | Hargreaves, A. | Price, Joseph T. (Westhoughton) |
| Balfour, A. | Harrison, J. (Nottingham, E.) | Proctor, W. T. |
| Barnes, Rt. Hon. A. J. | Hayman, F. H. | Rankin, John |
| Beattle, J. | Henderson, Rt. Hon. A. (Rowley Regis) | Reeves, J. |
| Bellenger, Rt. Hon F. J. | Herbison, Miss M. | Reid, Thomas (Swindon) |
| Bence, C. R. | Hobson, C. R. | Reid, William (Camlachie) |
| Benn, Wedgwood | Holman, P. | Rhodes, H. |
| Benson, G. | Holmes, Horace (Hemsworth) | Robens, Rt. Hon. A. |
| Beswick, F. | Hoy, J. H. | Roberts, Albert (Normanton) |
| Bing, G. H. C. | Hubbard, T. F. | Roberts, Goronwy (Caernarvonshire) |
| Blackburn, F. | Hudson, James (Ealing, N.) | Rogers, George (Kensington, N.) |
| Blenkinsop, A. | Hughes, Emrys (S. Ayrshire) | Ross, William |
| Blyton, W. R. | Hughes, Hector (Aberdeen, N) | Royle, C. |
| Boardman, H. | Hynd, H. (Accrington) | Schofield, S. (Barnsley) |
| Bottomley, Rt. Hon. A. G. | Hynd, J. B. (Attercliffe) | Shinwell, Rt. Hon. E. |
| Bowden, H. W. | Irvine, A. J. (Edge Hill) | Shurmer, P. L. E. |
| Bowles, F. G. | Irving, W. J. (Wood Green) | Silverman, Julius (Erdington) |
| Braddock, Mrs. Elizabeth | Isaacs, Rt. Hon. G. A. | Silverman, Sydney (Nelson) |
| Brockway, A. F. | Jay Rt. Hon D. P. T. | Simmons, C. J. (Brierley Hill) |
| Brook, Dryden (Halifax) | Jeger, George (Gocle) | Slater, J. |
| Brown, Rt. Hon. George (Belper) | Jeger, Dr. Santo (St. Pancras, S.) | Smith, Norman (Nottingham, S.) |
| Brown, Thomas (Ince) | Jenkins, R. H. (Stechford) | Snow, J. W. |
| Burke, W. A. | Johnson, James (Rugby) | Sorensen, R. W. |
| Burton, Miss F. E. | Johnston, Douglas (Paisley) | Sparks, J. A. |
| Callaghan, L. J. | Jones, David (Hartlepool) | Steele, T. |
| Carmichael, J. | Jones, Jack (Rotherham) | Stewart, Michael (Fulham, E.) |
| Castle, Mrs. B. A. | Keenan, W. | Stokes, Rt. Hon. R. R. |
| Champion, A. J. | Key, Rt. Hon. C. W. | Strachey, Rt. Hon. J. |
| Chetwynd, G. R. | King, Dr. H. M. | Stross, Dr. Barnett |
| Clunie, J. | Kirley, J. | Summerskill, Rt. Hon. E. |
| Coldrick, W. | Lee, Frederick (Newton) | Swingler, S. T. |
| Collick, P. H. | Lever, Leslie (Ardwick) | Sylvester, G. O. |
| Craddock, George (Bradford, S.) | Lewis, Arthur | Taylor, Bernard (Mansfield) |
| Crossman, R. H. S. | Lindgren, G S. | Taylor, John (West Lothian) |
| Cullen, Mrs. A. | Lipton Lt.-Col. M. | Taylor, Rt. Hon. Robert (Morpeth) |
| Daines, P. | McGhee, H. G. | Thomas, David (Aberdare) |
| Dalton, Rt. Hon. H. | McInnes, J. | Thomas, George (Cardiff) |
| Darling, George (Hillsborough) | McKay, John (Wallsend) | Thomas, Ivor Owen (Wrekin) |
| Davies, A. Edward (Stoke, N.) | McLeavy, F. | Thomson, George (Dundee, E.) |
| Davies, Ernest (Enfield, E.) | MacMillan, M. K. (Western Isles) | Thorneycroft, Harry (Clayton) |
| Davies, Harold (Leek) | MacPherson, Malcolm (Stirling) | Thurtle, Ernest |
| Davies, Stephen (Merthyr) | Mallalieu, E. L. (Brigg) | Timmons, J. |
| de Freitas, Geoffrey | Mallalieu, J. P. W. (Huddersfield, E.) | Tomney, F. |
| Deer, G. | Mann, Mrs. Jean | Viant, S. P. |
| Delargy, H. J. | Manuel, A. C. | Wallace, H. W. |
| Dodds, N. N. | ||
| Donnelly, D. L. | Marquand, Rt. Hon. H. A. | Watkins, T. E. |
| Driberg, T. E. N. | Mellish, R. J. | Webb, Rt. Hon. M. (Bradford, C.) |
| Ede, Rt. Hon. J. C. | Mikardo, Ian | Wells, Percy (Faversham) |
| Edelman, M. | Mitchison, G. R. | West, D. G. |
| Edwards, Rt. Hon. Ness (Caerphilly) | Monslow, W. | Wheatley, Rt. Hon. John |
| Edwards, W. J. (Stepney) | Moody, A. S. | White, Mrs. Eirene (E. Flint) |
| Evans, Albert (Islington, S. W.) | Morley, R. | White, Henry (Derbyshire, N. E.) |
| Fernyhough, E. | Morris, Percy (Swansea, W.) | Whiteley, Rt. Hon. W. |
| Field, W. J. | Morrison, Rt. Hon. H. (Lewisham, S.) | Wigg, George |
| Finch, H. J. | Moyle, A. | Wilkins, W. A. |
| Fletcher, Eric (Islington, E.) | Murray, J. D. | Williams, Rev. Llywelyn (Abertillery) |
| Follick, M. | Neal, Harold (Bolsover) | Williams, Ronald (Wigan) |
| Foot, M. M. | Noel-Baker, Rt. Hon. P. J. | Williams, W. R. (Droylsden) |
| Forman, J. C. | Oldfield, W. H. | Winterbottom, Ian (Nottingham, C.) |
| Fraser, Thomas (Hamilton) | Oliver, G. H. | Winterbottom, Richard (Brightside) |
| Gaitskell, Rt. Hon. H. T. N. | Orbach, M. | Woodburn, Rt. Hon. A. |
| Gibson, C. W. | Oswald, T. | Yates, V. F. |
| Glanville, James | Padley, W. E. | Younger, Rt. Hon. K. |
| Gooch, E. G. | Paget, R. T. | |
| Gordon Walker, Rt. Hon. P. C. | Paling, Rt. Hon. W. (Dearne Valley) | TELLERS FOR THE NOES: |
| Grenfell, Rt. Hon. D. R. | Paling, Will T. (Dewsbury) | Mr. Popplewell and |
| Griffiths, David (Rother Valley) | Palmer, A. M. F. | Mr. Kenneth Robinson |
| Griffiths, Rt. Hon. James (Llanelly) | Pannell, Charles |