HC Deb 17 November 1952 vol 507 cc1377-8
13. Mr. Nabarro

asked the Minister of Fuel and Power what action he proposes to take in connection with the recommendation in the Ridley Report, that industrial Stokers should be encouraged to raise their efficiency arrangements for improving their status.

Mr. Geoffrey Lloyd

I am discussing arrangements for this purpose with my right hon. and learned Friend the Minister of Labour.

Mr. Nabarro

Would my hon. Friend bear in mind that an untrained stoker in industry could waste more coal in a day than a skilled miner can cut, and that the finest means of inducing a higher standard of efficiency in stoking is not only an increase in mechanical stokers but a system of certifying industrial stokers on the lines of recent Canadian legislation on that subject?

Mr. Lloyd

I appreciate that, but my hon. Friend will also, I feel, understand my position when I say that I do not think that the best way to get economies is to tell the stokers they are bad stokers, but to make proper arrangements to facilitate an improvement of their efficiency.

Mr. Nabarro

Is my right hon. Friend aware that I did not say that all stokers are bad stokers? I said that in certain circumstances they could waste more in a day than a miner could raise.

Mr. Lloyd

I quite agree, I was not meaning to impute that sentiment to my hon. Friend.

Mr. Moyle

Will the right hon. Gentleman and his right hon. and learned Friend the Minister of Labour consult the T.U.C., with a view to getting practical views upon this important matter?

Mr. Lloyd

I think I am right in saying that they have already been consulted.

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