HC Deb 12 November 1951 vol 493 cc632-3
19. Mr. Lewis

asked the Minister of Food when he anticipates allowing private buyers to purchase the nation's food and what is the estimated saving that this will entail.

Major Lloyd George

I hope to extend the scope for private trading as soon as general conditions permit.

Mr. Lewis

In view of the fact that for six and a half years the Tories have been clamouring for this, can the Minister say why he has not got a scheme ready, and how much money it is expected will be saved to the nation when this scheme comes into force?

Major Lloyd George

It is easier to get the schemes than it is to get the money. For the lack of that I am not responsible. As for how much it will save, that is entirely hypothetical.

Mr. Mitchison

Can the Minister tell us what he means by "as soon as general conditions permit"?

Major Lloyd George

I should have thought as soon as general conditions permit.

Mr. I. Mikardo

When the Minister says that it is more difficult to get the money, is he anticipating that it will cost more money to buy privately than publicly?

Major Lloyd George

There is a great deal of misunderstanding on the other side about this. The fact is we have to cut these imports because we have not the money. It is not our fault that we have not got it and that we had to cut them.

Mr. Adams

Will the Minister describe more precisely what are the general conditions which will allow of a return to private buying?

Major Lloyd George

For one thing, we might start paying our way.

Mr. R. T. Paget

Is the Minister aware that so far he has cut private buying and not public buying? Is that not because private buying is a more expensive method of obtaining the goods?

Major Lloyd George

No, Sir.