HC Deb 05 July 1949 vol 466 cc1966-8
60. Mr. Driberg

asked the Economic Secretary to the Treasury if he is aware of the continuing hardship to German ex-prisoners of war, now working in Britain as civilians, who are not permitted to draw the credit balances due to them for work done during their imprisonment except in Germany in marks; and, as some of these men have now no homes or relatives in Germany, and do not wish to return there, he will endeavour to arrange that they shall be paid here in sterling the money owing to them.

63. Mr. Mitchison

asked the Economic Secretary to the Treasury whether he is aware that Mr. J. Orth has a credit balance of £24 12s. 9d., earned by work in this country as a prisoner of war; that Mr. Orth, having married an English wife and settled in Kettering, where he is employed in the boot and shoe trade, has no use for the money in Germany but needs it in this country; and what arrangements he proposes to make for the payment of the money due in this and similar cases.

The Economic Secretary to the Treasury (Mr. Douglas Jay)

Under present arrangements, payment of credit balances of all German prisoners of war is a German liability. To pay part of these balances in sterling would transfer some of the liability to the British taxpayer.

Mr. Stokes

Is it not a fact that Western Germany is now in the sterling area, and does not that simplify the procedure?

Mr. Jay

No, Sir. Western Germany is not in the sterling area.

Mr. Mitchison

Will not the effect of this decision, if it is persisted in, be that men who are living and working in this country will never be able to get payment of what they have earned, and will not the Economic Secretary reconsider the matter in the light of the unfairness and hardship caused to the people concerned?

Mr. Jay

I agree that this involves hardship to the people concerned. The trouble is that we have not yet found a solution which would not involve a burden on the British taxpayer. If we can find a solution we shall.

Mr. Driberg

To what extent would there be a burden on the British taxpayer? Can my hon. Friend say how large it would be? In any case, to face the matter squarely, should not there be a slight burden on the British taxpayer, since these men worked well and hard in this country, producing food?

Mr. Jay

The burden would be proportionate to the amount involved. There was an arrangement by which each country undertook this liability for its own nationals wherever they were prisoners of war. If we now undertook this additional burden we should be carrying a double burden, and that is the objection.

Mr. Mitchison

Is the hon. Gentleman not aware that the payment of my own salary as a Member of Parliament imposes a burden on the British taxpayer, and is there any reason why the money earned by Mr. Orth in Kettering should not be paid to him when I continue to be paid my salary?

Mr. Jay

Yes, because under the agreement this is a liability undertaken by the German authority. As I say, if we can find a solution we will.

Captain Crookshank

Does the Minister accept the statement that there may be persons working in this country who can, under no circumstances, be paid? It so, that is a terrible allegation to make.

Mr. Jay

No, Sir. This is a liability which arises from the period when these persons were prisoners of war, and it is only in so far as those payments are affected that the difficulty arises.

Mr. Skeffington-Lodge

Can my hon. Friend tell the House what sum would be involved if the point made by my hon. Friends is met?

Mr. Jay

I cannot, without notice, give the total.

Mr. Stokes

Is the hon. Gentleman aware that Section 34 of the Geneva Convention lays down that sums standing to the credit of prisoners of war shall be remitted to them in full by the detaining authority on their ceasing to be prisoners of war?

Mr. Jay

There was an agreement between the Governments covering the period of the war.

Mr. Driberg

If I put down another Question in a week's time will my hon. Friend undertake to make a much fuller statement about this, and to investigate the whole matter before then?

Mr. Jay indicated assent.

Mr. Driberg

Thank you.

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