HC Deb 25 January 1949 vol 460 cc725-6
3. Mr. Vane

asked the Secretary of State for War why the well-known term, "Drill Hall," has been superseded by a new title, "T.A. Centre"; and what is the advantage, military or otherwise, to be derived from the change.

Mr. Shinwell

Drill forms only a small part of the modern soldier's training. I think that the new name more accurately describes the purpose which the centres are intended in future to fulfil.

Mr. Vane

Is the right hon. Gentleman aware that this will certainly add to the confusion? Territorial headquarters have been affectionately known as drill halls for a very long time and will continue so to be known.

Mr. Shinwell

There is no confusion whatever, except in the mind of the hon. Member. The fact is that much more than training is carried out in these territorial centres. We have to store equipment there, and besides, we hope that these centres will be the hub of social activities associated with the Territorial Army.

Colonel Gomme-Duncan

Is not the right hon. Gentleman aware that these places always have been the hub of social activities associated with the Territorial Army?

Mr. Shinwell

But the social activities that we have in mind are very much better social activities.

Sir Harvie Watt

Is the right hon. Gentleman aware that, whatever these drill halls may be called officially, they will always be known by the Territorials as drill halls?

Mr. Emrys Hughes

Is not this a case of a rose by any other name smelling just as sweet?

Mr. Shinwell

As long as it is sweet, it does not matter.

Mr. Vane

Can the right hon. Gentleman say how often he has been in a drill hall in his own constituency for social activities or otherwise?

Mr. Shinwell

In fact, I have been in the drill hall at Seaham Harbour several times, but I do not know what that has to do with the Question.